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Shahbaz

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Posted 24 April 2023 - 05:52 PM

Hope all doing great. Someone can guide / advise how to conduct validation and verification for metal detector in confectionary (Candies). Will appreciate your support.



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Posted 24 April 2023 - 07:22 PM

Best option---reach out to the manufacturer and have them send you a tech to assist

 

you need to intentionally put varying sizes of metal through the detector and confirm that they are all rejected---this needs to be repeated for all metal types and at or below the size you are using to verify the MD is working during daily production

 

it also needs to be done in the right (yours) packaging as this can affect how well the MD functions


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Posted 24 April 2023 - 07:24 PM

Agree with Scampi and I'll add some companies will actually make specialized test pieces that match the form and shape of your product to use.



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Posted 24 April 2023 - 08:09 PM

Hi ,
We do Rapid fire and internal Audits for validation.



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Posted 24 April 2023 - 10:39 PM

Hope all doing great. Someone can guide / advise how to conduct validation and verification for metal detector in confectionary (Candies). Will appreciate your support.

It all depends on how you or the SQF Standard choose to interpret Va/Ve. (Machine providers may have a further, different again, interpretation).

Unfortunately, seemingly despite official advice, SQFauditors are  effectively out on their own (eg with respect to Codex) as far as Validation  is interpreted (as  previously discussed in detail on this Forum).
"A Law unto Themselves".

 

Regardless, see -

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...on/#entry184920


Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


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Posted 26 April 2023 - 09:50 AM

For Verification: Use test pieces containing specified size of ferrous 0.5 mm), SS (1.2 mm) and Non-Ferrous (0.8 mm) metal particles. These test pieces shall be passed through a metal detector before and after the activity. If before and after test pieces get rejected it is verified that, the metal detector performs its activity as intended.

 

Validation: Intentionally introduce different types of metal particles in a small-size dummy batch and check whether candies are rejected or not. Perform this activity in specified intervals, ideally annually.



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Posted 27 April 2023 - 04:40 AM

It all depends on how you or the SQF Standard choose to interpret Va/Ve. (Machine providers may have a further, different again, interpretation).

Unfortunately, seemingly despite official advice, SQFauditors are  effectively out on their own (eg with respect to Codex) as far as Validation  is interpreted (as  previously discussed in detail on this Forum).
"A Law unto Themselves".

 

Regardless, see -

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...on/#entry184920

Hi Shahbaz,

 

i have attached 2 more examples to expand/clarify the material linked via Post 5 -

 

(a) this illustrates some practical logic involved with doing a trial run/Validation through the MD

Attached File  Metal Detector (MD) Validation..pdf   797.53KB   13 downloads

(credit-techni-k)

 

(b) this is a complete CFIA HACCP Plan showing the full context of the Verification extract given in my previously posted attachment.

 

Attached File  HACCP Generic Model for Fresh produce, Ready-To-Eat Fresh-Cut Vegetables.pdf   427.08KB   8 downloads

(see pg 23/24, penultimate column)

 

 

A particular difficulty with SQF's apparently, commonly experienced, auditorial interpretation of Validation relates to Chronology and consequent blurring of the [Codex] distinction between  Va and Ve. (Note that SQF's Codex-attributed definition of Validation in SQF Code ver 9 is, afaik, "mythical". This aspect is, for example, more fully addressed in this Post/threads -

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...es/#entry132872

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...ion/#entry42176

(2011!)


Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C




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