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[BobZ51pr]

Hello, I hope everyone is doing well.

I’m working on implementing FSSC 22000 on a packaging / printing company. One of their products is a box packaging for fast food, the client, asked for FSSC 22000 implementation (or GFSI, ISO was chosen).

The company currently has ISO 9001 implemented, I was wondering if the ISO 22000 applied to all the products or if we have to have both ISO, meaning two audits for each one. I have the understanding that ISO 22000 has ISO 9001 implemented so we should be able to have both in one?

Or is it that for the food production we use ISO 22000 and the other ones we use ISO 9001, Im trying to prevent two audits If possible.

Thank you all, I tried searching for a similar topic but didn’t find one.

[SQFconsultant]

The company already has what the client is seeking, why bother with FSSC?

[patti.garcia]

We have both ISO9001 and FSSC. We did a dual audit once, it came with 2 auditors, one for each audit. They sat in for the common stuff together and then audited their own items separately. Difficult part was I could not be with both auditors, so I had to find someone to help me. I think doing it as one audit is harder, so I have not done it since. I would have the FSSC scope include only your food grade boxes. Unless you have a completely different line and storage areas risk assessments for cross contamination would have to be robust. To shorten duration, you should be able to only include the manpower used to process that one product. and learn to say "not in the scope". We have hospitality (tasting, catering, pools and restaurants) in same buildings as our processing areas at three facilities and as soon as the auditor looks at one of those areas I quickly say not in scope. Painted lines on floors to designate in-scope and out-of-scope are used in one facility that share a common room.