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[HYBRIDIZED]

Good Morning everyone,

 

I hope everyone had a good weekend.

 

I wanted to ask Oil of Oregano (NHP) as a food ingredient in a food product. Is it acceptable?

 

Furthermore, the supplier didn't send me paperwork for documentation and record keeping.

 

The manufacturer for oil of oregano has stated, "This product (Oil of Oregano) is sold as a Natural Health Product (NPN 80039782) licensed by Health Canada intended for consumer use, and isn’t classified as a Food product."

 

Our organic auditor is asking documentation for it. What should i do?

 

 

 

Thanks.

Edited by HYBRIDIZED, 24 February 2025 - 04:45 PM.

[TimG]

Ok, I see a potentially big issue here:

 "This product (Oil of Oregano) is sold as a Natural Health Product (NPN 80039782) licensed by Health Canada intended for consumer use, and isn’t classified as a Food product."

 

And you are using this as an ingredient in a food product? Even if there is a GRAS, you would still need to show (and have verif/valid) that any risks/hazards of the non-food ingredient that you are using as a food ingredient are mitigated at your facility.

 

Our organic auditor is asking documentation for it. What should i do?- Give them all the documentation you have, which I hope you are keeping as part of your supplier approval process. If they request more, tell them you will request it from the supplier. 

[Scampi]

You need to stop using it until you get all your facts   it IS NOT approved for use in food

 

https://dicentra.com...-oil-of-oregano

 

https://inspection.c...on-feed-product

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC7008907/

Edited by Scampi, 24 February 2025 - 05:33 PM.

[jfrey123]

Fingers crossed that your oil supplier can document that their oil is organic.  But it's sounding like you have a non-organic non-food ingredient in your organic product and your auditor just caught it.

[kingstudruler1]

Im with scampi.   I would not use it with our further notice.   I hope that the "auditor" found it when you applied for for approval and you havent already used it.  

 

Not to beat a dead horse,  but you product development and commericalization procedures may need some beefing up in the area of quality and food safety.   

 

(I believe) The owner of the NPN has also had several recent regulatory actions. - for both ther health products and actual food products.  

Edited by kingstudruler1, 24 February 2025 - 07:21 PM.

[TimG]

Fingers crossed that your oil supplier can document that their oil is organic.  But it's sounding like you have a non-organic non-food ingredient in your organic product and your auditor just caught it.

 

I was wondering if you could even certify non-food items as organic when I read the post, but I have a bad feeling this one will be moving into the 'damage control' area soon either way.

Keep us updated Hybrid..

[SQFconsultant]

Jfrey123 just hit it on the head.

 

Auditor caught something.

 

We use Meditarainen (yes, my spelling is off today)  Organic and do use it as a food ingredient - but your Auditor I doubt will accept "natural" when he/she is looking for Organic.

 

However it would make sense that Health Canada sees it as a non-food as it is at base a natural antibiotic (and a darn powerful one I may add.)

 

And I would agree with the King too, and not to beat it up further but I would be demanding Organic source plus getting everything in writing, having a robust approved supplier program with suppliers forced to comply makes everybody happy.

[GMO]

It looks like it's a powerful antiseptic.  But either way if they've approved it as a medical ingredient not a food ingredient or as a food additive, you need to go back to the supplier and find out:

 

1. Is it safe to include in food and does it have appropriate approvals for that?

2. If so is there a maximum limit in which it can be incorporated into food?

 

Only then...

 

3. Is it certified as organic or would it be exempt for some reason?

[Scampi]

I will reiterate

 

It is NOT approved for human consumption in food by CFIA   the rest is (at this moment) immaterial 

[GMO]

I will reiterate

 

It is NOT approved for human consumption in food by CFIA   the rest is (at this moment) immaterial 

 

Apologies... I defer to Scampi.

[HYBRIDIZED]

Fingers crossed that your oil supplier can document that their oil is organic.  But it's sounding like you have a non-organic non-food ingredient in your organic product and your auditor just caught it.

i addressed this months prior to my team but nothing changed. you can have non-organic ingredient but we are presenting it as organic because in the past our supplier sold it to us.

[HYBRIDIZED]

You need to stop using it until you get all your facts   it IS NOT approved for use in food

 

https://dicentra.com...-oil-of-oregano

 

https://inspection.c...on-feed-product

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC7008907/

in the past we used to get this

 

https://naturalfacto...aktCyhUpAD_BBNJ from canadian store. It says its a dietary supplement and has supplemental facts.

 

The links you shared shed some light to this.

 

The one we are using its definetly a NHP and i told em not good for food.

Edited by HYBRIDIZED, 25 February 2025 - 06:36 PM.

[HYBRIDIZED]

Im with scampi.   I would not use it with our further notice.   I hope that the "auditor" found it when you applied for for approval and you havent already used it.  

 

Not to beat a dead horse,  but you product development and commericalization procedures may need some beefing up in the area of quality and food safety.   

 

(I believe) The owner of the NPN has also had several recent regulatory actions. - for both ther health products and actual food products.  

its being sold as a food product for many years but it was approved in the past maybe because its food grade ingredient.

[Scampi]

its being sold as a food product for many years but it was approved in the past maybe because its food grade ingredient.

 

Probably because 

 

1) they weren't CFIA inspected in the past

 

2) they didn't have someone telling them they couldn't

[HYBRIDIZED]

Probably because 

 

1) they weren't CFIA inspected in the past

 

2) they didn't have someone telling them they couldn't

makes sense

[HYBRIDIZED]

Probably because 

 

1) they weren't CFIA inspected in the past

 

2) they didn't have someone telling them they couldn't

https://dicentra.com...-oregano-update

 

i found this which is interesting now im so confused ngl