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[Syzygy]

Perhaps it's a British thing lol...  But as soon as there's something which separates "office" from "workers" you can bet you're getting it in the ear right?  And you know what I agree!  If you want to dress up and have fancy nails, there are other jobs out there.  Food isn't glamorous.  Sorry!  

 

That's what I always said, it's not a fancy dinner party, not a night out with the girls/boys/thems, not a fashion show, it is work. And we are working with food. Why do you need to have this on here? Need to be careful though, cause you will find yourself on a mental health awareness course after a chat with HR that you can't force things like this on people cause they won't feel comfortable at work.

[SHQuality]

"Why do we have to do this, we are not at production"

That's a non-sequitur and the office workers at that company probably knew.

 

Everyone follows the same rules, regardless of whether they are the CEO, an operator, an office worker or a visitor.

Auditors won't care who contaminated the food. When you are present in the production area or the storage area, you follow the associated rules. 

[Janice Payne]

I understand that the code and standard are very clear; however, as someone directly involved in winemaking, I’d like to provide some context. Wearing gloves over a cut is essentially the same as wearing gloves over false fingernails. In both cases, the gloves serve as a protective barrier. Additionally, every batch of wine undergoes post-production microbiological testing to ensure product sterility.

 

We do not permit false fingernails in production areas; however, this requirement does not extend to staff who are not directly involved in production. The standard also requires us to define low- and high-risk areas, and we clearly communicate that stricter hygiene rules apply within high-risk zones. Our staff have a strong understanding of, and commitment to, these expectations.

 

Anyone who has been involved in wine production will understand that many other types of contaminants can enter the process naturally with the grapes from the vineyard.

[Scampi]

 

 

Anyone who has been involved in wine production will understand that many other types of contaminants can enter the process naturally with the grapes from the vineyard.

 

And there's the rub        There may be inherent process hazards for which you have PCs in place..........fake fingernails can be prevented       an injury cannot

 

I don't think you're argument came across as intended

[GMO]

And there's the rub        There may be inherent process hazards for which you have PCs in place..........fake fingernails can be prevented       an injury cannot

 

I don't think you're argument came across as intended

 

That was exactly what I was about to type.  Extraneous vegetative matter is, to a degree, unavoidable.  Fingernails are avoidable.

 

High care / high risk is not the question here.  There is a micro risk but also a foreign matter one and so the section of BRCGS is not only in the high care high risk section but in all.

 

If your staff are office based and never go in the factory, then yes they can have long fake nails.  BUT why is there someone who works in manufacturing who never goes to production?  Whatever job you do, it will be done better if you actually get off your butt into production from time to time... Just my thoughts but as I said, stubborn and intransigent here.