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Bo16

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Posted Yesterday, 07:25 PM

Has anyone had the issue of the invoice listing 2.25 days (18 hrs) when the auditor was only there for 12-16 hrs.?  this seems to be standard business practice for our audits and happens year after year.  That doesn't include the day for audit writing.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:40 PM

I'd say 12 hours is taking the p--- 16 is within error margins.

 

I did once have an auditor who was there for a certification scheme and a retailer on the same day.  It didn't occur to me till a few weeks later she will have sold the day twice.  Frankly the job I was doing at the time, we were audited to death and even if I wanted to say anything it was too late but I probably would have let it slide.

 

A GFSI audit though, you should be struggling to get through the content in the time if done properly.  But if someone finishes 1-2 hours early and doesn't take time to "compose their thoughts" (i.e. do an hour of writing up on site) every day, I'm not concerned.  When I do external audits (rare and not GFSI), I never do any writing up on site but between day 1 and 2 I write up everything and highlight what I've not seen yet or want to see in more detail.  This often takes a good 3-4 hours and wipes out all of my evening but without it I know that day 2 will not run smoothly.  With it, I know I'm super efficient on day 2 and often finish an hour or two early.  That said, these aren't GFSI audits and I can't imagine finishing the scope without wanting to see more in the time they give you.

 

I think though that it's a sign that auditing is badly paid and people want to find a way to take time back because of it.  The old guard of auditors have retired.  New, inexperienced auditors are the norm.   Another PCA will come.


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