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[GMO]

Hi all, 

 

I'm starting to see increasingly panicked posts from commercial people about these.  And of course the inevitable (not entirely sure of the ethics) product developments to meet a "need" (also a need not to lose profits, let's be honest).

 

I'm old enough to remember low sugar products being made to address all the Atkins diet aficionados.  They came, they left.  Will this be the same or will it endure?

 

I'm unsure.  So far they look promising for health but when used for weight loss, they appear to be life long medications (or face relapsing back on your weight gain).  I'm not a science denier by any means but there is a bit of niggling uncertainty I have about them.  Firstly the risk on sarcopenia in the elderly.  Which, ok, by the time you've got there if you were morbidly obese beforehand, you've probably won in the game of life.  But secondly if it encourages you to consume a lot less, is there not a risk on reducing fibre significantly and potential bowel issues (diverticulitis or even bowel cancer)?  Lastly, eating is a joy and part of social life.  By cutting back on this joy, is it not going to damage mental health and social cohesion?  Will we all end up injecting ourselves and drinking "Huel"?  (Omg, I have never been tempted to drink that stuff.)

 

I'm overweight, not as obese as my photo would suggest but I exercise a lot and eat reasonably healthily.  It ain't shifting.  But currently I'm not tempted to pay the c. £200 a month I'd need to have these drugs, mostly because I worry about the long term and side effects.

 

Thoughts?

• Are you seeing impacts on sales in your industry?
• What are your thoughts on these drugs in general?
• Would you take them?

[SHQuality]

I'm personally against meddling with the natural balance of your blood sugar and your feeling of satiety.

As you say, this could itself cause issues, especially if it's used over-the-counter without medical supervision.

I would only recommend such action if there is a diagnosed deficiency that could be treated that way.

 

I'm not seeing any significant impact on sales in any of the industries where I've worked and I would not use any products that alter my hormone levels.

 

A lot of people wrongly focus on "healthy foods" by arbitrarily calling certain foods healthy and others not, while they should be focussing on the overall diet they are used it. A high-sugar, high-fat treat once a month is not going to make any difference as long as you keep your intake under control for the remainder of the time.

 

Ensuring variety with plenty of sources for minerals and vitamins and smaller portion sizes would be my first port of call.

[TimG]

I'm all for it. Heck, start giving me bionic parts so I can live forever. That's what I want.

[Danny123]

I have been on a GLP-1 medication for the last year and it has been life changing for me. I have tried everything under the sun to control my weight for the last 30 years with no success and decided to give these medications and shot and I am glad I did. Here is what has happened:

 

1. I lost 70lbs and I am no longer considered obese.

2. The inflammation in my body is gone and I no longer need a back fusion, my surgeon was amazed. 

3. I no longer have a fatty liver and my lab work is now excellent. 

4. No longer pre-diabetic

5. I save $300-400/month on my food bill, enough to pay for this medication

6. I am no longer out of breath climbing a flight of stairs

7. I can hike for miles now and enjoy the outdoors with family

8. The food noise in my brain is gone. I never realized what a problem it was for me. I can eat food and stop without going overboard. 

9. Addiction to sugar is gone. Don't even think about it. 

10. My mind is quiet. No longer ruled by food. 

11. Went down 3 shirt sizes and even more pant sizes. 

12. I am overall happier. 

13. Anxiety is gone. 

 

Only negative is how much money I spend on clothes because I like how things look on me now. I am now bumping  my dose down to a maintenance dose and will continue taking these for as long as I need to. My primary care doctor supports this.  

[SHQuality]

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Only negative is how much money I spend on clothes because I like how things look on me now. I am now bumping  my dose down to a maintenance dose and will continue taking these for as long as I need to. My primary care doctor supports this.  

That last line is important.

Your doctor should be on board regardless of what you choose to do.

Glad to hear it worked for you.