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[aps]

Please please

I am having a blonde moment. I have a BRC audit monday and I need a risk assessment for my schedule for my internal audits

Please can you help me

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[QSDA]

Hi
Dont know if this will help, but satisfied my auditer

[QSDA]

sorry no file

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•  3.05.03 DOC Internal Audit HA.docx   21.01KB   623 downloads

[Ken]

You could start with Fundamental clauses twice per year and everything else once per year.

[Charles.C]

Dear QSDA,

I missed this post. Thks.!

Very ingenious (IMO) response to the BRC’s ridiculous (IMO) addiction to risk assessments.

I hv two queries –

1.Is there any logical (ie scientific validation) support for the additive procedure in yr risk matrix or was it purely dreamed up?. My statistical knowledge is highly wobbly but surely 2 independent contributions can only be combined via a multiplicative route ? I hv previously seen a few other examples like yours and equally wondered.
2.The highly detailed risk data as you show appears to demand a considerable backup resource of data analysis/compilation in case an auditor requests some validation. You really possessed such data ? IMEX, routine hygiene data is invariably available but for a lot of the rest, urghh!
Or was the listing accepted as an “experience” inspired evaluation, ie the auditor only expected a token gesture ?
I’m guessing the actuality was somewhere in-between, ie a (very) limited validatory procedure ? If so, can you elaborate a little ?

Rgds / Charles.C

BTW Welcome to the forum !

[jaredkkrischel]

Can you upload the file as a .rtf? I have an older version of Microsoft Word and cannot open a .docx file

[Charles.C]

Dear jaredkkrischel,

I hv the same problem and tried to get people to upload pdfs but hv now succumbed to the modern era by finding a fairly simple alternative which has so far proven very capable for me (XP-SP2 / Word 2003 user).

Can download / install the (free) “abiword” which is a very small (approx. 10MB) download / quite popular pseudo-Word program.
Save the docx to hard drive.
Right click docx file in explorer (Xp) and select properties.
In the “open file with” area, click “change” and (for me anyway) abiword appears as an alternative choice which select . > ok etc as required. (if it doesn’t appear as choice, will hv to select the alternative “choose from a list” and enter the actual .exe location or its desktop shortcut.)
After this (usually) short procedure, only hv to doubleclick any downloaded/saved docx file and abiword will open it automatically. Not failed me yet regardless of content, tables whatever. Can also re-save file as a (2003-compatible) normal word document if wish to edit.

Don’t know if it is Vista, Win7 etc compatible though. My machine is still in the dark ages . There are other more specific solutions but IMEX many of them failed with tables and things due formatting complexity.

Rgds / Charles.C

ADDED much later - one caveat to above, abiword seeems to not show the headers/footers correctly (and same problem with several other programs in varying ways, Charles Chew's following pdf is probably accurate)

[Charles Chew]

Hi all,

I have converted this to pdf file. Hope this will take care of any uploading problems. Anyway, this is just an internal audit schedule and I am still not sure what risk assessment for internal audit schedule is needed for

[Charles Chew]

Sorry on the attachment.  3.05.03 DOC Internal Audit HA.pdf   39.5KB   327 downloads

[MQA]

Hi all,

I have converted this to pdf file. Hope this will take care of any uploading problems. Anyway, this is just an internal audit schedule and I am still not sure what risk assessment for internal audit schedule is needed for

This has confused me also. Why would there be a risk assessment on an Internal Audit Schedule?

Can anyone answer this?

[mgourley]

This has confused me also. Why would there be a risk assessment on an Internal Audit Schedule?

Can anyone answer this?

The only thing I can think of is clause 1.6 "The review process shall be undertaken at appropriate planned intervals, as a minimum annually, to ensure critical evaluation of the food safety plan and the HACCP system's suitability, adequacy and effectiveness."
My assumption would be that the RA is used to "plan" review frequency.

Personally I don't see the need for a RA. As stated somewhere above, I'd just audit the Fundamental clauses twice a year and leave the rest to the minimum requirements as stated in 1.6.

Marshall

Edited by mgourley, 12 June 2011 - 08:10 PM.

[MQA]

The only thing I can think of is clause 1.6 "The review process shall be undertaken at appropriate planned intervals, as a minimum annually, to ensure critical evaluation of the food safety plan and the HACCP system's suitability, adequacy and effectiveness."
My assumption would be that the RA is used to "plan" review frequency.

Personally I don't see the need for a RA. As stated somewhere above, I'd just audit the Fundamental clauses twice a year and leave the rest to the minimum requirements as stated in 1.6.

Marshall

Yeah thanks Marshall. I agree with you! Good to know I wasn't missing something.

Cheers.