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#1 NPE Produce Consulting

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

I am interested in others thoughts on how to handle the PrimusGFS audit question, "1.01.05 - Is there documented management verification of the entire food safety management system on at least an annual basis? For my clients I created a worksheet where for each key section of the food safety plan a review deems the policies, SOPs, logs, etc. to be adequate or not adequate and what action items are necessary to make something adequate. I thought I had this well taken care of but a number of auditors don't seem to like this arrangement. Any thoughts on how to best tackle this question would be appreciated.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:26 PM

Any members familiar with Primus? It isn't a standard that's discussed much on the forums. That said I'm sure there are similar requirements contained in other standards such as BRC and SQF. Is this clause referring to audit or management review (or both)?

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:54 PM

Hello,

Do you still need help?

Did you see the guidelines provided from their website?

http://www.primusgfs...umentation.aspx

 

Very helpful, it provides in detail what they are looking for. I refer to it all the time.

Mine was written out in a form of a letter/statement with supporting documents.

 

For Internal Audits- Wrote about an internal audit performed on DATE, what items needed attention and corrective actions.  I printed out the check list from their site, and did a self audit and wrote out corrective actions.

 

Analysis of Feedback/Complaints- Wrote about any arrival issues, feedback from customers and corrective actions...  Provided  samples of USDA inspections and our corrective actions. and Feedback from customers.

 

Review/Updates to operations objectives-  It was our first GFSI audit, wrote about our operations needing to be changed to GFSI.

 

Updates/Changes to SOP's- Wrote about HACCP CCP' being changed after a verification of the program and changes to and additions of SOP's.

 

Other- Wrote about adding more HACCP certified person on the committee.

 

Hope that helps.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:02 AM

Hello,

Do you still need help?

Did you see the guidelines provided from their website?

http://www.primusgfs...umentation.aspx

 

Very helpful, it provides in detail what they are looking for. I refer to it all the time.

Mine was written out in a form of a letter/statement with supporting documents.

 

For Internal Audits- Wrote about an internal audit performed on DATE, what items needed attention and corrective actions.  I printed out the check list from their site, and did a self audit and wrote out corrective actions.

 

Analysis of Feedback/Complaints- Wrote about any arrival issues, feedback from customers and corrective actions...  Provided  samples of USDA inspections and our corrective actions. and Feedback from customers.

 

Review/Updates to operations objectives-  It was our first GFSI audit, wrote about our operations needing to be changed to GFSI.

 

Updates/Changes to SOP's- Wrote about HACCP CCP' being changed after a verification of the program and changes to and additions of SOP's.

 

Other- Wrote about adding more HACCP certified person on the committee.

 

Hope that helps.

Dear EveKaudze,

 

Thks for the input.

 

@ npeproduceconsutling -

but a number of auditors don't seem to like this arrangement.

 

why not ?

I suspect many factories will score low points for  3.05.01 :smile: 

The suggested list in 1.01.05 looks quite useful although I would have specifically added an overall review of "Corrective Actions" , hygiene monitoring, external chronological events which might interact with safety aspects, (eg Bird Flu).

 

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:56 PM

I see this is pretty old but I just wanted to say I used the example Primus as on the tool kit and modified it to meet my company needs and had no problems with it when presented to the auditor. Hope it helps.

 

http://intranet.prim...er/Default.aspx

 

-GMP section

 -Internal audit

  -Management review SOP example


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:39 AM

I see this is pretty old but I just wanted to say I used the example Primus as on the tool kit and modified it to meet my company needs and had no problems with it when presented to the auditor. Hope it helps.

 

http://intranet.prim...er/Default.aspx

 

-GMP section

 -Internal audit

  -Management review SOP example

 

Dear kbjorn,

 

Thks for the input. And yes, this resource has been mentioned in passing  before and is indeed excellent for certain areas of FS.

 

a related thread is here -

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...rce/#entry59973

 

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