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[Goliath]

After a long absence last month I returned to the food industry in a FSQA role. Way back I got hold of a copy of ISO 22000, but never did get to read it in depth. I need to get back on track and have been reading up on GFSI standards, one thing confuses – what is FSSC 22000 and how does it differ from ISO 22000? Great to be back in the game and hoping to get some much needed assistance from the experts.

Tks,
David

[john_miro]

After a long absence last month I returned to the food industry in a FSQA role. Way back I got hold of a copy of ISO 22000, but never did get to read it in depth. I need to get back on track and have been reading up on GFSI standards, one thing confuses – what is FSSC 22000 and how does it differ from ISO 22000? Great to be back in the game and hoping to get some much needed assistance from the experts.

Tks,
David

Hello, our company has just been certified against FSSC 22000 by SGS. ISO 22000 is almost the same with FSSC 22000 however, the GFSI has found ISO 22000 as not that comprehensive in describing pre-requisite programs. Because of this PAS 220 was drafted by multinational companies (Kraft, Nestle, Danone and Unilever) to address this GMP issues. So FSSC 22000 is just ISO 22000:2005 + PAS 220:2008. You may check this website for more info: www.fssc22000.com

[Goliath]

Thanks a bunch John, I've been out of the game for a little while and I can see the rules have changed somewhat. If you don't mind I have another question for you, what will become of ISO 22000?

Tks,
David

[Tony-C]

Hello, our company has just been certified against FSSC 22000 by SGS. ISO 22000 is almost the same with FSSC 22000 however, the GFSI has found ISO 22000 as not that comprehensive in describing pre-requisite programs. Because of this PAS 220 was drafted by multinational companies (Kraft, Nestle, Danone and Unilever) to address this GMP issues. So FSSC 22000 is just ISO 22000:2005 + PAS 220:2008. You may check this website for more info: www.fssc22000.com

Also note that ISO have published Technical Specification ISO/TS 22002-1:2009 which is cheaper and identical in requirements to PAS 220 suggesting PAS 220 will be withdrawn in the future. FSSC have confirmed where PAS 220 is stated ISO/TS 22002 can be read.

Regards,

Tony

Edited by Tony-C, 14 November 2010 - 11:23 AM.

[Jon5]

David:

Did John answer your question adequately? I assume you understand the FSSC 22000 standard at adequately by now?

Any discussion as to the fate of the ISO 22000 standard at this point is pure conjecture. Many seem to think the standard will be combined with the PRPs described in the PAS 220 and will go away as a entity of its own. I'm a little skeptical that we'll see that happen in the near future; there are businesses for which the standard is satisfactory in and of itself. This is true for any businesses whose customers are not demanding GFSI compliance. I also see potential for application of the standard in businesses such as food packaging, for which it may not make sense to implement the full PAS 220 set of requirements. One nice feature of having the standard split, I think, is that a company can implement the ISO standard first, and may later implement the PAS if needed, in a phased approach.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks a bunch John, I've been out of the game for a little while and I can see the rules have changed somewhat. If you don't mind I have another question for you, what will become of ISO 22000?

Tks,
David