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#1 Bryan123

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:19 PM

As a poultry slaughterhouse and frozen food processor, we fall into the FSC categories of 7b & 8. This requires us to do module 2, 9 & 11. Modules 9 & 11 are very similar to each other. Module 9 has slighlty more emphasis on animal processing (9.2.14.8), housing (9.2.1), site practices (9.4.1, 9.4.2), animal transport (9.6.1, 9.6.2). Module 11 emphasis is on processing practices (11.4.1) and water supply (11.5)

Rather than dublicating similar aspects of the two modules, I'm wondering how receptive an auditor would be to addressing all of Module 11 and answering only the pertinent sections in Module 9, to minimize reduntancy ?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:59 PM

As a poultry slaughterhouse and frozen food processor, we fall into the FSC categories of 7b & 8. This requires us to do module 2, 9 & 11. Modules 9 & 11 are very similar to each other. Module 9 has slighlty more emphasis on animal processing (9.2.14.8), housing (9.2.1), site practices (9.4.1, 9.4.2), animal transport (9.6.1, 9.6.2). Module 11 emphasis is on processing practices (11.4.1) and water supply (11.5)

Rather than dublicating similar aspects of the two modules, I'm wondering how receptive an auditor would be to addressing all of Module 11 and answering only the pertinent sections in Module 9, to minimize reduntancy ?

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Have you confirmed that your modules for ver. 7 will be 2, 9 & 11?

I ask because based on what you wrote it appears to be 2 &11.

Re-ask your consultant or call SQFI directly and ask them.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 12:24 AM

Good Day
SQF requires all modules to be responded to by the auditor.
If you desire more detailed please send me an email xxx
You can of course contact www.SQFI.com and direct your ? to Leanna Chuboff, sr Director at SQFI.
This was brought up in previous meetings and auditors have been advised all modules must be completed, even though there may be redundant ? in the various modules.
Understand that Module 2 is a complete module and all FSC (food service codes) be they farm, ranch, processor must have all of module 2.
As for your unique business model then you add the other code as applicable for raw slaughterhouse, frozen food, food distribution etc.
Hope this is of some assistance


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#4 Bryan123

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 02:10 PM

Thank you for your feedback. This is a great forum to bounce ideas and find out where the technical boundaries are.

SQF technical committee is looking over the question and I will post their response when I hear back.

Personnelly, as it is our quality plan, we should be able to organize in easy and transparent manner to ;
a) satisfy auditors
b) reduce reduntancy
c) be concise and transparant for production / teammates to " buy into"

There are very few slaughter related elements to module 9 (emphasis on red meat - as poultry generally has no housing or pens), and are generally all covered under HACCP. Whereas many elements in module 11 supersede elements in module 9 by having more stringent requirements (water, processing practices, ventilation)

I guess, it wouldn't take to long to make a reference sheet for module 9 that refers to module 11, as long as auditors don't get too fussy when they see a lack of internal auditing on module 9, just on the applicable slaughter elements.



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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:15 PM

Compiled a down and dirty, cross reference guide to Module 9 & 11 and the relation to Canadian FSEP Prerequisite elements.

The idea is to tie in the specific documents, SOP's as they relate to the SQF module and would be company specific.

Please let me know if you disagree with any of the element coverage.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:12 PM

Our audit to SQF code edition 7, went well !
the manual was rewritten to answer all questions in Module 9 and Module 11. There was a great deal of repitition but thought it best to not leave anything unanswered.

Our audit thought it was a little redundant, and could have used the cross reference guide. This being said, with every question in both modules answered there were no surprises and made the days go by much smoother

Thanks for all your help and guidance








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