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[AANNFF]

Hi!

Can someone tell me the differences with 2.3.2 Raw and Packaging Material VS 2.4.5 Incoming Goods and Services? It looks like they mostly cover the same thing.

Thanks in advance,
AA

[esquef]

There is some redundancy with the two elements, but 2.3.2 deals primarily with specifications, regulatory, sampling/analysis of raw materials, validation of food contact packaging materials, various registers, etc.

2.4.5 is mainly focused on your Approved Supplier Program (which used to be a pre-requisite in 6th edition; 6.10).

[Tony-C]

Hi!

Can someone tell me the differences with 2.3.2 Raw and Packaging Material VS 2.4.5 Incoming Goods and Services? It looks like they mostly cover the same thing.

Thanks in advance,
AA

 

As Esquef has indicated, here is a brief summary:

 

2.3.2 Raw and Packaging Materials
Materials should comply with legislation, be approved and validated. Documented specifications and a register of materials should be available.

2.4.5 Incoming Goods and Services
There should be an approved supplier program for organisations supplying raw materials, ingredients, packaging materials, and services. Supplier performance should be monitored. There should be a register of approved supplier and records of inspections and audits.

 

Regards,

 

Tony
 

[Carolyn Grimmius]

2.3.2 raw and packaging material - specifies that you have a current (2.3.2.7) list of all your raw material specifications which you need to review them on an annual basis, also need to show by what method for developing and approving them and who is responsible for this. 2.3.2.4 and 2.3.2.5 - Need to have some type of letter of guarantee from each supplier to ensure the material is safe for it intended use. 2.4.5 Approved Supplier list - need to list all approved suppliers, who is responsible for selecting, etc. and monitoring each supplier. 2.4.5.4 approved suppliers program - risk level of the material and needs to contain at a minimum: i-vii. We just finishing our recertification audit last week, the auditor was very thourough - went through each and every statement in SQF Code Module 2 level 3.. Read each statement as it is written, then verify you have it in place. Hope this helps. Carolyn

[JKRed]

I'm new here, and new to SQF after being thrust into this new role for our company, and so maybe I've just been reading and digesting way too much to be able to think straight at this point (haha), but I could use some expertise relevant to this thread.

 

What exactly is meant by "level of risk" and where is that documented/found? Specifically, we had a Desk/Gap Audit performed recently (I think I'm using those terms properly) and were found to be "non-compliant" in Clause "2.4.5.4 - Incoming Goods & Services" and the note we were given says the following...

 

 

"There is no reference to the rating of the level of risk."

 

 

What exactly does that mean!?! Again, please excuse me if this seems like a rather ridiculous question.

 

Are we supposed to assign/create a "Risk Level" to EACH AND EVERY Raw Material Specification Sheet and all the Specification Sheets we have for each product we create in-house or is this something else entirely? Could it be as simple as adding a single sentence or two to become compliant perhaps?

 

What is meant by the statement provided to us so we know what our proper response should be?

 

Thanks in advance for your time and help!

 

All The Best,

 

Jeff

[JKRed]

Could it be as simple as us adding a statement here that references our "Approved Suppliers & Verification Program" in SQF Clause 2.4.5.4 and the "Approved Supplier/Vendor Questionnaire" we use for all potential new Suppliers/Vendors that asks all the pertinent questions that directly relate to the "risk level" presented?

 

I'm hoping it's that easy and I'm just confusing myself over something really simple b/c I'm reaching "burnout stage" as it typical at the end of another long week working on SQF (haha!).

 

Thanks,

Jeff