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[Silvialima]

Hello,

 

Is there any maximum time of completion for a mock recall/traceability exercise according to SQF standards? I recalled seeing 4 hours somewhere, but I cannot find the source now. I couldn't find anything in the SQF code. 

 

Thank you!

 

Silvia

[shyshadow48]

Hello,

 

In our bakery (cheesecakes,cakes,muffins,etc) we state 2 hours for the mock recalls. Usually auditors (ive dealt with silliker and sqf) also give you 2 hours to complete it. Im not sure where the source comes from.

[mruth84]

From my knowledge, there is no time requirement within the SQF code.  However, your customers may have a time and % recovery requirement  (100% in 2hrs).

[SQFconsultant]

24 hours.

[Peaches]

We have it written in our policy that our goal is to perform the recall is 2 hours or less and documented corrective actions are needed if it takes us longer than 2 but less than 4. If it takes us more than 4 hours we have to repeat the exercise within 60 days.    

[Silvialima]

Thank you! 24 hours is the time limit to notify your certification body and SQFI. 

 

At my previous job I passed several SQF audits, and I used to use 4 hours as the limit. I believe I got that from an SQF document, but I cannot find it. May be it is an industry standard (?).

 

Thank you!

 

Silvia 

[SQFconsultant]

Gee, my bad - you are correct it is not in the code, something tells me to look somewhere else however, I will check as now I need to know for certain.

[SQFconsultant]

Under 7.2 there is NO time limit for a test of the recall/trace, etc. program.  Interesting to say the least!

[foodsafety4all]

Thank you! 24 hours is the time limit to notify your certification body and SQFI.

At my previous job I passed several SQF audits, and I used to use 4 hours as the limit. I believe I got that from an SQF document, but I cannot find it. May be it is an industry standard (?).

Thank you!

Silvia

4 hours traceability time has been mentioned in brc standard. This came from that standard.

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[Marlon Fernando]

4 hours traceability time has been mentioned in brc standard. This came from that standard.

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For the traceability trial four hours time duration has been stated in the BRC Food standard (issue 7) clause no: 3.9.2, but for a mock recall no specific time has been stated as far as I know in any food standard.

[Charles.C]

Hi FS4/Marion,

 

The OP requirement was for SQF.

 

(Posts 3,7, 8)

[foodsafety4all]

For the traceability trial four hours time duration has been stated in the BRC Food standard (issue 7) clause no: 3.9.2, but for a mock recall no specific time has been stated as far as I know in any food standard.

Mock recall/traceability should be treated as actual traceability with complete details of mass balance from rm to fg used/stored at customer level.
So communication proof of acknowledgement from customer end within 4 hour is must.

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[Charles.C]

Hi All,

 

Just to avoid confusion -

 

 GFSI-AIB, Traceability - Mock Recall Time Limits.png   21.16KB   5 downloads

 

Additions / Corrections welcomed

[paulpaine]

SQF does not state a time limit but our clients have requested 2 hours on a mock recall and 24 hrs notification to certification bodies for an actual recall.

[Charles.C]

SQF does not state a time limit but our clients have requested 2 hours on a mock recall and 24 hrs notification to certification bodies for an actual recall.

 

Hi paulpaine,

 

Thks. The latter requirement is actually stated in sqf standard 7.2 (to sqf).

[Tony-C]

Hi Silvia,

 

There is no time specified so it would be something less than 24 hours given the notification requirements.

 

Previous guidance stated the following:

The supplier must also be aware of the recall targets set by retail customers. 
Some may require 100% identification and quarantine of affected product within hours or recall notification. 
Regulatory recall requirements must also be considered.

 

​​Kind regards,

 

Tony

[burilini55]

Hi Silvia-

I direct an ingredient company under FSSC 22000, but I can tell you that the customer base globally repeatedly requests under 4 hrs. My program is greatly driven by the restrictions put on us by customers if they are narrower than the regulation of standards.

[VTRex]

I know when we went through our first GMP audit the auditor failed us after 2 hours. That was a hard lesson on tracking primary packaging! LOL!

[StellaTan]

Goal is to complete the recall within 2 hours, and max 4 hours.