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BRC- TACCP + VACCP

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#1 Adrian Calnan

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 02:38 PM

Would adding a section for TACCP and VACCP on our existing SAQ be sufficient to meet the BRC standard V 8 .  Can anyone advise on this matter please. Thanks Adrian



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Posted 23 January 2019 - 02:45 PM

If you ask about traceability and how they control threats and vulnerabilities, but you still have to check for incidents of substitution or fraud.

Which clause are you trying to address?


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:24 PM

I would also be looking at 1.1.4 'the effectiveness of the systems for HACCP ,food defence and authenticity

 

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

Would adding a section for TACCP and VACCP on our existing SAQ be sufficient to meet the BRC standard V 8 .  Can anyone advise on this matter please. Thanks Adrian

 

This does seem to be a common approach, although your SAQ is presumably general to a production site, whereas TACCP and particularly VACCP will likely be specific to product / product group.

There are various ways to approach this though. We get drowned in questionnaires from customers asking for detailed information on lots of things, including horizon scanning, historical incidents etc. If you just want to tick the boxes for BRC then this appears to keep them and most of the retailers happy, although I'm still completely baffled as to how - if you ask an untrustworthy supplier what measures they take then why would they given you an honest answer?!

Have to confess that I feel this has become one of the worst areas of for pointless box-ticking and asking for paperwork for its own sake!

 

I'm not convinced that it isn't necessary to ask your suppliers for that much of this type of information. If you're looking at e.g. 5.4 (and 3.5.1) then this can be accomplished largely internally for many product types - as long as you understand your supply chains in a broad sense (i.e. potential weak points / vulnerabilities) and the ingredients then everything required in this section can be determined by you, without having to rely on the very same suppliers for whom you're trying to determine the risk status.

 

For 1.1.4 you're looking at a broader review, so this would be similar to HACCP - system performance, out of spec (adulterated/misbranded/substituted) products, complaints related to this area, whether your own VACCP/TACCP system has caught things before they became a problem / prevented malicious action etc.
 






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