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#1 Juribe

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 09:51 PM

When you receive a non-conformity during an audit, do you include a root cause analysis in your Corrective Action Report, or simply state the root cause in the corrective action summary?

 

Thank you in advance.



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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:34 PM

Hi Juribe,
 
When I fill out the Corrective Action Report, I do not attach the RCA, but state the root cause (in some cases, I add a bit of info). Our BRC auditor has accepted our submissions with no issues (but then again, this might depend on your auditor). See samples below

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 02:32 PM

Yes, a root cause must be included for a NC. Most of the audit CARs have a section to input the root cause, if there is not a specified one in your audit, you can include in the corrective actions.

However, a root cause should be a part of your corrective/preventive action response.



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Posted 19 February 2020 - 02:41 PM

Our Audit Reports ask for the Root Cause. We do not attach the entire RCA, just the final determination. For us as well this has been accepted.



#5 tadelong

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 02:47 PM

NSF has been pretty prickly with us for insufficient root cause analysis. "Eventually I just had to move on with my life and address some of the other piles on my desk" has never been accepted, surprisingly.



#6 Charles.C

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 06:24 PM

JFI,  the listed RCA answers in Post 2 could IMO logically generate a further "WHY" ? :smile:

 

eg Training ?

 

I suppose it all depends on how many layers of the onion are expected to be peeled.


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Charles.C





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