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#1 egonwie79

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 08:38 PM

Hi All,

 

Under which category will you categorized chocolate mousse under.

Dairy product or frozen dessert?



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:35 PM

1. You cannot call chocolate mousse a dairy product, because as per Canadian Dairy Product Regulation definition, “dairy product” means milk or a product thereof, whether alone or combined with another agricultural product, that contains no oil or fat other than that of milk

2. There is no regulatory definition of frozen dessert (don't confuse it with frozen dairy dessert, which is standardized by Canadian Standard of Identity, Volume 1 - Dairy Products) - so, you can categorize chocolate mousse as a frozen dessert if you freeze it

3. I know many bakeries making chocolate mousse (I personally worked for a bakery making frozen chocolate mousse) - so, to me it's a bakery product 



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:57 PM

1. You cannot call chocolate mousse a dairy product, because as per Canadian Dairy Product Regulation definition, “dairy product” means milk or a product thereof, whether alone or combined with another agricultural product, that contains no oil or fat other than that of milk

2. There is no regulatory definition of frozen dessert (don't confuse it with frozen dairy dessert, which is standardized by Canadian Standard of Identity, Volume 1 - Dairy Products) - so, you can categorize chocolate mousse as a frozen dessert if you freeze it

3. I know many bakeries making chocolate mousse (I personally worked for a bakery making frozen chocolate mousse) - so, to me it's a bakery product 

 

Olenazh, your response really helps give me direction and clarity......thank you for that. Quick question, would you mind sharing your chocolate mousse flow diagram with me. Just want to understand your controls.

Thank you.



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:59 PM

Sorry, I don't work for that bakery company any more (5 years already). If you want, I have a frozen dessert flow chart - but that's completely the same as ice cream, so I don't think you'd need it...



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 01:07 PM

Sorry, I don't work for that bakery company any more (5 years already). If you want, I have a frozen dessert flow chart - but that's completely the same as ice cream, so I don't think you'd need it...

oh oh.....true, I won't need that for ice-cream. But would you know whether you had a CCP for the entire process or your controls was all based on CGMP's?

Thanks,

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 01:14 PM

I recall, partially GMP controls, partially - CCPs (e.g. metal detection), but you'd need to do hazard assessment yourself and identify your own control points. I don't think it's a good idea to copy others' controls... 



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 01:23 PM

I recall, partially GMP controls, partially - CCPs (e.g. metal detection), but you'd need to do hazard assessment yourself and identify your own control points. I don't think it's a good idea to copy others' controls... 

 Right it was not for a copy and paste hahaha. Just wanted to see compare and contrast with mine. . As you know processes can really be enhanced when we compare contrast...……….continuous improvement.

Thank you very much for taking your time to help me out.






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