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[Rol Natty]

We have a mango juice in stock which have 6 months shelf life. After 15 it will be expired, so the owner order direct the plant manager to extend and reprint for 6 months more to change it. The plant manager is disagree he is ideal from this work until this issue finish. We give this 6 month shelf life study not by shelf study process we just put to start to with minimum level. The owner order for me direct to reprint the shelf life of all the stock we have. I am confused and I don’t know what to do. For the regulation and law there is no law or regulation on the country that I was working we don’t have problem of that. But moral my mind is not accepted to pass my manager and do something on back of him. What advice can you give me please.

[Charles.C]

We have a mango juice in stock which have 6 months shelf life
After 15 it will be expired ,so the owner order direct the plant manager to extend and reprint for 6 months more to change it
The plant manager is disagree he is ideal from this work until this issue finish
We give this 6 month shelf life study not by shelf study process we just put to start to with minimum level
The owner order for me direct to reprint the shelf life of all the stock we have
I am confused and I don’t know what to do

For the regulation and law there is no law or regulation on the country that i was working we don’t have problem of that

But moral my mind is not accepted to pass my manager and do something on back of him

What advise u can give me pls

 

^^^(blue) - Sorry but no idea what this means ?

 

(a) is this canned, UHT, pasteurised, sterilised ??

(b) Who usually authorizes the printing of expiry date on labels ?

(c) Who do you report to on the Organisation Chart ?

(d) How did you justify the 6-month shelf life ? eg is it same as other similar products on the market ?

[Rol Natty]

The juice is sterilized with in 110 degree centigrade for 14 sec
The authorization is on the plant manager but the plant manager say I can not decide on this matter so the owner interfered on this and he tell the plant manager to stay home until we finished this work and order us to do the job
On the organization I am quality assurance manager report to the plant manager
Then when I tell him the plant manager the owner call me and tell me to do this he said that I can’t confirm u to do but if u want to do by your decision no problem with me he said
Not we justify by mostly juice on the market are shelf life is between 6 month -12 month so we use the minimum to reduce risk
Based on the quality the juice is good
The problem is my mind is not well to pass my manager to do this thing and it is immoral for me but if am not doing the owner is very difficult person he will fire me
What is your advise pls

Edited by Rol Natty, 20 December 2020 - 03:21 PM.

[Charles.C]

The juice is sterilized with in 110 degree centigrade for 14 sec
The authorization is on the plant manager but the plant manager say I can not decide on this matter so the owner interfered on this and he tell the plant manager to stay home until we finished this work and order us to do the job
On the organization I am quality assurance manager report to the plant manager
Then when I tell him the plant manager the owner call me and tell me to do this he said that I can’t confirm u to do but if u want to do by your decision no problem with me he said
Not we justify by mostly juice on the market are shelf life is between 6 month -12 month so we use the minimum to reduce risk
Based on the quality the juice is good
The problem is my mind is not well to pass my manager to do this thing and it is immoral for me but if am not doing the owner is very difficult person he will fire me
What is your advise pls

 

Hi Roi Natty,

 

This is hot-fill pasteurization ?

I missed the bit about "expired" in yr OP. Does this mean that some product is/has been already in the market with a 6 month shelf life ?

[Rol Natty]

Yes the juice is sterilized in UHT machine and filling temperature is. 65 degree centigrade
No all product is on the warehouse 15 days left only left to be expired that is why the owner he wants to reprint add six month more shelf life on the juice

[Charles.C]

Yes the juice is sterilized in UHT machine and filling temperature is. 65 degree centigrade
No all product is on the warehouse 15 days left only left to be expired that is why the owner he wants to reprint add six month more shelf life on the juice

 

Hi Roi Natty,

 

Yr process is somewhat confusing to me but not my product area.

 

I assume the Plant manager reports to the Owner.

 

In order to protect yourself I suggest -

 

(1) Since you are responsible for quality control, you should decide if you are (safety/qualitywise) satisfied to commercialize the product with a (maximum) 12-month shelf-life label. (eg without doing any shelf-life test).

 

(2) The result of (1) should be documented  to the Plant Manager with copy to the Owner. (and especially if yr opinion is negative).

 

The owner can presumably then act accordingly. (I assume he can [documented] authorize printing appropriate labels).

 

PS - i deduce the owner intends to place a new label on top of old one, this would cause the product to be Regulatory rejectable in some locations. This aspect should also be  considered with respect to No.(2).

 

Hope the above makes sense.

 

Any other suggestions welcome of course.