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Posted 20 October 2023 - 12:17 PM

We recently (yesterday) finished our unannounced BRC packaging 6 audit during which we received a NC for our internal 

auditing system, under clause 3.5.5, we carry out internal audits on a monthly basis and process audits on an annual basis, the NC

was for the audits not being scheduled on a Risk based analysis. A couple of questions has anyone else fallen foul to this one and if so

do you have a RA template you would like to share.

 

TIA 

Ian


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Posted 20 October 2023 - 12:51 PM

Safefood 360 has a great risk assessment outline for use with internal auditing, just make sure the risk assessment is complete and transparent to each standard section using emphasis on fundamentals within the clause.

 

 

https://safefood360....wnload_resource


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Posted 21 October 2023 - 04:00 AM

Attached is a fictitious RA  for audit frequency example.  It is also not for packaging,  but i think you will get the idea.   Just an idea

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Posted 23 October 2023 - 01:58 AM

I just include the word "risk" in my justification for frequency in annual audit plan.


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Posted 23 October 2023 - 04:02 AM

Attached is a fictitious RA  for audit frequency example.  It is also not for packaging,  but i think you will get the idea.   Just an idea

 

That looks remarkably familiar   :secret:  ;)

 

We recently (yesterday) finished our unannounced BRC packaging 6 audit during which we received a NC for our internal 

auditing system, under clause 3.5.5, we carry out internal audits on a monthly basis and process audits on an annual basis, the NC

was for the audits not being scheduled on a Risk based analysis. A couple of questions has anyone else fallen foul to this one and if so

do you have a RA template you would like to share.

 

TIA 

Ian

 

Hi Ian,

 

A simple matrix as posted above should be fine to fulfil the requirements. Attached is a combined RA/ schedule based on the risk. It is always good to add a column for comments on your risk assessment, I do that on a separate sheet in a remarkably similar format to the file posted by kingstudruler1  :smile:

 

Attached File  BRCGS Packaging Issue 6 Audit Plan with Risk Rating.png   923.01KB   0 downloads

 

You don't need to carry out as many audits as the schedule shown but obviously you should prioritise based on risk.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony


Edited by Tony-C, 23 October 2023 - 04:04 AM.

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Posted 23 October 2023 - 05:31 PM

We received a non-conformance on this section as well.  Part of the NC was due to our risk assessment only listing Likelihood, Severity, and overall scores with justification details.  We were assessing it as a generalized failure (L/S) of the category and didn't have specific criteria laid out in the assessment, so we were dinged on that.  

 

What they had "seen done in other facilities"  was listing quality, legality, authenticity, integrity, performance, financial gain, food safety, non-conformances -  each with their own subsections of criteria to consider. Some of which were considered in the assessment but weren't specifically detailed on the RA.  Something to consider.


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Posted 24 October 2023 - 01:12 PM

Why are GFSI schemes starting to become you must risk assess everything?  Risk assessing your internal audit schedule now?!  Seems a bit of an over reach to me.  I just don't get it...


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