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[Edyta]

Hi guys, 

 

could You help me to find a scintific literature what can help me to validate Used by date for vacuum fresh Rainbow Trout Fillets?

 

I want to do a shelf life tests (its a new product) and have no idea how long vacuum can extend the used by date.

 

Do You think, the product could be safe within 10 days?

 

Thnaks a lot, Edyta 

[Dorothy87]

Hi, 

 

Usually you need to do a shelf life testing (Lab) and organoleptic testing. 

 

You can purchase two books from Campden BRI 

 

G46/2 Evaluation of microbiological shelf life of foods (campdenbri.co.uk)

 

G11/2 A code of practice for the manufacture of vacuum and modified atmosphere packaged chilled foods (campdenbri.co.uk)

 

Edited by Dorothy87, 12 December 2023 - 02:26 PM.

[Edyta]

Yes, i know - but dont want waste money, if the shelf life will be to long, thats why im asking for the help - im completly new with validations 

[Scampi]

Um-waste money???????

 

How much is a recall worth to you if you make people sick with your product. Seriously

 

If you don't fully want to participate in your job function, find another field

[Edyta]

Some missunderstandings we have here,  i think - so i will try to explain  

 

i didnt say - i will base just on the literature,

 

when i wrote "i dont want waste money" i thought about situation like that: before i will send product to check by lab, i wanted to know what says the scientific dates,  Im aware also of the risk this poses for consumers and if i say - im new, doesnt mean i dont like/feel my function, just i feel unsure and wanted know opinion of more  experienced colleagues in the industry.

Thats it

[Dorothy87]

hi, 

 

To be honest, it doesn't cost that much to collect samples and send for a shelf life testing.

 

if you are new to validation you would be looking to buy books and do a research. Your shelf life must be supported with lab results, literature etc.  

 

We wont be able to clarify a shelf life just like that, we don`t know what type of vac pack machine you are using etc, there are many factors and they could give us a different outcome. 

[kfromNE]

Hi guys, 

 

could You help me to find a scintific literature what can help me to validate Used by date for vacuum fresh Rainbow Trout Fillets?

 

I want to do a shelf life tests (its a new product) and have no idea how long vacuum can extend the used by date.

 

Do You think, the product could be safe within 10 days?

 

Thnaks a lot, Edyta 

 

In the USA, I get help from the universities. They have the expertise and can provide direction. Other options - text books, companies that make the machines you use, or go to the grocery store and look at similar products. I would try searching for more generic fish if you want an idea how long to run a shelf life test. These are places I would start. 

Edited by kfromNE, 12 December 2023 - 05:01 PM.

[Scampi]

My point is that trusting a lab to run shelf life for you as per their accredited procedure is not a waste of money--they will happily explain what they use and how they perform the validation for you

 

Then you can support those findings with PROCESS and packaging and species literature 

[Edyta]

Ok, that has a sense. Thanks a lot for the support :)