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[Scampi]

McDonalds claims to have one of the if not the tightest food safety standards (having personally worked for 1 of Canada's largest suppliers) and yet here we are

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/...-coli-O157.html

 

https://corporate.mc...ood-safety.html

 

In actuality (to me admittedly cynical mind) reads like bull sh** lip service and spin

[MDaleDDF]

Yeah, CEO was on NBC talking about restoring confidence in 'enjoying all their classics', and they haven't even finished figuring out how many people were sickened or killed.   Current count is 49 sick 1 dead last I read.   But the PR machine is in full cover mode....

 

https://www.nbcnews....rs-p-rcna176742

The amount of these incidences sure seems to be spiking.  First Boar's Head, now McDonald's.    Something like just shy of 10 million pounds of meat was recalled and trashed last week?   The week before for Listeria?   On the Food Safety News, there's similar things going on overseas all over the place. 

What's going on here?   Why the big spike all of the sudden?

[Marshenko]

Yeah, CEO was on NBC talking about restoring confidence in 'enjoying all their classics', and they haven't even finished figuring out how many people were sickened or killed.   Current count is 49 sick 1 dead last I read.   But the PR machine is in full cover mode....

 

https://www.nbcnews....rs-p-rcna176742

The amount of these incidences sure seems to be spiking.  First Boar's Head, now McDonald's.    Something like just shy of 10 million pounds of meat was recalled and trashed last week?   The week before for Listeria?   On the Food Safety News, there's similar things going on overseas all over the place. 

What's going on here?   Why the big spike all of the sudden?

 

Maybe we're testing too much 

[Setanta]

Maybe we're testing too much 

 

If we stop testing it will go away! 

[SQFconsultant]

All recently former Khazarian Mafia (aka deep state, illuminati, etc.) controlled companies  - in process of quietly being taken over, re-organizied, etc and there are still some bad apples in the bunch that are still creating havoc.

 

Look, the world went to war against the K-Mafia that had amoungst so many other businesses infiltrated the food industry and especially fast food.  Why do you think thousands of people at McD's corporate headquarters were let go or why so many meat processing companies started catching on fire.

 

I realize there are a lot and I mean a LOT of normies on here that haven't as of yet figured out what has been going on since about 2015 but you are going to see a bunch more recalls, burn downs, out of business situations,  store and chain closings, etc as we near the end of coming out of this historic period and as the United States transitions back to a fully independent Republic of these United States.

 

Eventually when the dust finally settles there will be a new dawn, a new day an disclosure as to what the hell took place since the time that the international bankers took over our country and to a large extent the world.

 

You guys go ahead and call me nuts or a conspiracy person (and I wear that badge proudly) but the facts are nobody should have ever eaten anything from any fast food outlet, period.

 

Food for thought, ever wonder why McD's Ronald McDonald has those big RED shoes?  Everything is a comm.  This recall like many other recalls was engineered just like what just happened in my former neck of the woods - Western North Carolina, that storm was engineered to target the entire path it took.  While they have taken down most of the harp systems, there are still some remaining that were both land and air based.

[MDaleDDF]

Maybe we're testing too much 

I honestly don't think this is off the mark., lol.   The amount of testing that's being done nowadays is probably bringing to light things that were unknown before, no?   When people got sick in the past, it was more difficult to connect that it was from eating, what and where they ate, etc, no?

Edited by MDaleDDF, 23 October 2024 - 02:23 PM.

[Setanta]

I guess I'm a 'normie' here...first time for everything. 

I don't know why why McD's Ronald McDonald has those big RED shoes? I'd like to know. Please point me in a direction...

 

And I have to admit I also don't know what "Everything is a comm." means.

 

A CON, I could see that, but generally people can't keep secrets, which is why I struggle with many conspiracies. No one seems to have mastered the skill of stealth or quiet. 

[ChristinaK]

I honestly don't think this is off the mark., lol.   The amount of testing that's being done nowadays is probably bringing to light things that were unknown before, no?   When people got sick in the past, it was more difficult to connect that it was from eating, what and where they ate, etc, no?

 

I agree. Now that we have better methods of reporting and tracking foodborne illness, along with increased knowledge and increase in product and environmental micro testing...we may have been experiencing the same ratio of foodborne illness incidents to population, but are only made aware because technology and practices have caught up.

Although I also think that the larger monolith companies with large distribution and hundreds of suppliers are the biggest threat to public health. Especially if they're in the earlier steps of the supply chain/used as raw material suppliers for other processors like BrucePac. Is it a "too big to fail" mindset, or profits over food safety and building upkeep? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Scampi]

Maybe we're testing too much 

 MWAHAHAHAH

[Scampi]

I honestly don't think this is off the mark., lol.   The amount of testing that's being done nowadays is probably bringing to light things that were unknown before, no?   When people got sick in the past, it was more difficult to connect that it was from eating, what and where they ate, etc, no?

 

I disagree that this is the route cause, the maple leaf recall was in 2008, Jack in the Box, 1993 as an industry , we've known since AT LEAST 1993 how to mitigate the risks to things like listeria and E.coli via seek and destroy protocol

 

To all of those here who have NOT worked in meat, I can tell you from my personnel experiences, MORE testing is the solution, not less.  Meat processing from slaughter to fully cooked and incredibly difficult to clean. 

Sanitation departments are under paid and under appreciated, turn over is exponentially higher than other departments (setting aside the slaughter jobs themselves)

 

GREED my friends, the elephant in the proverbial room 

 

What do ALL of the recalls have in common?????  Not ONE OF THEM was "discovered" by the manufacturer and in the worst cases, people are dying before anything is done

[jfrey123]

Articles are saying it likely came from the onions.  Having never worked a McD's job, I don't know if they're cutting the onions at each individual restaurant or if they're getting them processed elsewhere and shipping the sliced onions refrigerated to each location.  Given the number of illnesses, I'm guessing the latter is to blame and McD's will chalk it up to a supplier issue for whomever sells them the cut onions.

 

Which then will trigger work on my end, determining if the onions came to the processor tainted by the farm or by the handling.  If they trace it to the farm level, then I get to go figure out if my brokers slipped me any onions from that farm.  Oh joy.

[G M]

The common ingredients were the burger patties and shredded onions.  I would have expected the lesson from Jack-In-The-Box to have been enough for such widespread undercooking of the patties to be avoided, so the onions which aren't cooked seem like a probable culprit.

 

Onions have been involved in a few outbreaks in the last few years. 

[ChristinaK]

The common ingredients were the burger patties and shredded onions.  I would have expected the lesson from Jack-In-The-Box to have been enough for such widespread undercooking of the patties to be avoided, so the onions which aren't cooked seem like a probable culprit.

 

Onions have been involved in a few outbreaks in the last few years. 

 

Didn't Chipotle have an outbreak related to raw onions in recent years as well? I think that's why they blanch some of their produce in boiling water before they cut it now.

[SQFconsultant]

McD's gets their onions chopped and dehydrated. In the outlet they scoop them out and they are re-hydrated in a slotted bowl that is placed in a sealed bowl. Then microwaved and curiously they are then refrigerated for 2 hours prior to use.

[Marshenko]

GREED my friends, the elephant in the proverbial room 

 

What do ALL of the recalls have in common?????  Not ONE OF THEM was "discovered" by the manufacturer and in the worst cases, people are dying before anything is done

 

I may or may not have seen some things much earlier in my career... e.g. test came back positive, GM sez, "why are we testing anyway?"

[Scampi]

Didn't Chipotle have an outbreak related to raw onions in recent years as well? I think that's why they blanch some of their produce in boiling water before they cut it now.

 

The general ecoli situation forced them to change practices across the board, blanching onions is one of them

 

There are NOT been an e coli outbreak related to onions outside of Denmark and that was green onions

https://www.foodsafe...-coli-outbreak/

[jfrey123]

The general ecoli situation forced them to change practices across the board, blanching onions is one of them

 

There are NOT been an e coli outbreak related to onions outside of Denmark and that was green onions

https://www.foodsafe...-coli-outbreak/

 

We had an outbreak related to onions stateside back in 2021: Mexican onions distributed directly from the farm/packer as well as an importer up in Idaho who sent them out and about.

Outbreak Investigation of Salmonella Oranienburg: Whole, Fresh Onions (October 2021) | FDA

[Scampi]

We had an outbreak related to onions stateside back in 2021: Mexican onions distributed directly from the farm/packer as well as an importer up in Idaho who sent them out and about.

Outbreak Investigation of Salmonella Oranienburg: Whole, Fresh Onions (October 2021) | FDA

Yes, salmonella, I was referring to e coli specifically

[Lynx42]

There was a diced onion recall last year, but due to Salmonella.  Gill's in Oct 2023.

 

McDonald's serves two kinds of onions, dehydrated ones that have been rehydrated that they use on the kids burgers, and the cheap burgers and cheeseburgers. I think they use them on the Big Mac also, and regular yellow sliced onions.  I get the chicken sandwich sometimes and they always ask if I want "onion or slivered onion" when I ask them to add it.  

[jfrey123]

Sorry Scampi, you're right.  I was up way too early this morning and somehow just remembered "wait, there was an onion outbreak" and got too focused on the outbreak part without realizing you were referring specifically to e coli.

[Scampi]

Sorry Scampi, you're right.  I was up way too early this morning and somehow just remembered "wait, there was an onion outbreak" and got too focused on the outbreak part without realizing you were referring specifically to e coli.

 

Need more coffee LOL!

[MDaleDDF]

They're now saying the onions on the quarter pounders is the culprit.   Pre-sliced and sent to stores in bags.   The dehydrated ones only go on the other burgers, the sliced ones on quarter pounders evidently.

The sheer amount of path recalls seems to be spiking big time, for whatever reason, and indeed some have been initiated by the manufacturer, tho not mcd's or boar's head.    I believe the latest egg drama, and frozen waffle drama were both initiated by the manufacturers?

 

I wouldn't doubt money plays its role.   It usually does in everything.   Companies generally only do things for one reason, and money is it...

 

Interesting update:

https://www.foodsafe...ced-raw-onions/

Edited by MDaleDDF, 24 October 2024 - 02:55 PM.

[ChristinaK]

Interesting update:

https://www.foodsafe...ced-raw-onions/

 

 According to CNN, a rep at Taylor Farms said they've never had E.coli O157:H7 in their raw onions before. If you include their products that were a part of the BrucePac recall, this is their...4th recall event this year, I believe.

 

I bet the beef supplier is letting out a huge sigh of relief though.

 

Side note: I really hope that kid with HUS recovers. I can't imagine being that young and facing possible kidney failure due to a bad hamburger. :-(

[jfrey123]

US Foods has published recalls naming Taylor Farms as well as AmeriFresh (who appear to have distributed some of the onions).  The list is growing.