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[Bo16]

Because of the on-site expense (travel out side the USA) and employee time, I would like to have some of my PCQI/FSVP individuals trained in auditing techniques.  As a smaller company, everyone wears many hats and the FSVP is wearing our small group of external auditors out.  Along with sending others with our current team, I would like to give them a course on auditing.  

1.  They have the education/training for what they are auditing.

2.  They need training in auditing itself.  Asking open ended questions, techniques for handling disagreements / de-escalation, Audit check-list and report writing examples, etc.  

 

I can find lead auditor training for FSSC, BRC and leaning towards that, but is there any other training available?

 

 

 

[nwilson]

Depends on the level of depth you want to put into the training.  If its a one day auditing techniques training or more formal course study and certification

 

- ASQ offers Certified HACCP or Quality Auditor and ISO 9001 Lead Auditor (formal course study and proctor exam)

https://www.asq.org/cert/haccp-auditor

https://www.asq.org/...OTlObGhXFMcr4Ss

https://asq.org/trai...JKY1a1KDoZZ3F5 

- ISO 9001 Lead Auditor Training - General one day 

https://learning.int...-may-12025-pdt/

[kingstudruler1]

The IFSQN basic internal auditor course is quite good.   You may be looking for more than that.

 

I have taken the BRCGS Lead Auditor class.   It is good and adds credibility.   You do spend a great deal of the time learning how to evaluate brcgs clauses - most of the 5 days.  

 

Like all the other "required" food safety courses / certifications, there is no substitue for for experieince.  Its going to take some mentoring.   

 

Why not just find a auditor(s) in country?    Does your FSVP program require that you audit as opposed to 3rd party?  

[Bo16]

Thank you for your suggestions.

No, we are not required to audit on a routine basis for our FSVP, but we are working on at least 1 on-site audit for our current major ingredient manufacturers to ensure compliance.  The ingredient suppliers we are auditing manufacture using complicated, exact, heavily science/knowledge based products.  We have found that great documentation and adherence to GFSI standards does not always equate to a quality product.  The product may be "safe" but that is not the only quality factor in purchasing. We do not intend to audit all suppliers.  Our people know the science/lab/manufacturing processes since we also manufacture some of our own ingredients, but Audit training is needed.