My point is that this isn't technical problem----we CANNOT change the culture UNLESS upper management sees the value You're suggesting we have the power to enact change in the entire facility on our own While I agree, most of us are super heroes running on integrity and caffeine, we do not, in fact have much power within most facilities
If senior management allows visitors to walk the floor without following all the rules, or management choses not to discipline repeat GMP offenders, HTH are we going to change the culture??????
I get that. It's fair. And I've worked at a few companies because I've left companies who I've tried and failed to influence. But our job is 20% science, 80% influencing in my view. I'm not a super hero. (I hate those attempts at culture depicting super heroes but that's another story.) But I have to be able to influence. Even those more powerful than me. It might take time but I'll invest that time and either slowly move them or leave. Otherwise my job is not doable.
Am I being too simplistic?
Because you're assuming that leaders won't be open to this once they understand it (and few do). But what if they are? What if this does get people on board with supporting Technical and Quality? What if, even if it starts as lip service it leads to genuine change?
I just find it surprising. I know that some areas of standards people will only do because it's in the standard. But perhaps, over time, that changes and they start to see the value? Maybe the same will happen here.
I would hate to work somewhere where senior managers were so dismissal of food safety but also be in a situation where I felt like I couldn't influence that. That's being totally powerless. What's the point?