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[sanidadexterior]

Raw milk is a food that is highly susceptible to microbial growth, especially from the animal and from the environment.

Pasteurization was discovered in the 19th century, a gentle heating of milk that eliminates most microorganisms present in milk.

Some people reject pasteurized milk and prefer to consume raw milk.

Raw milk cannot be sold for health reasons in several countries: Canada, Malaysia, and several states in the USA.

In others, it can be sold subject to certain requirements:  EU , Japan and USA ( interstate ).

In Europe, raw milk consumption is not widespread, and health problems are related to products made with raw milk (cheeses, etc.).

In the USA, 202 outbreaks of foodborne illness associated with raw milk consumption have been identified between 1998 and 2018. Raw milk is said to have certain properties that it loses with pasteurization: loss of nutrients, lactose intolerance, and immune problems.

There are some companies marketing raw milk and its products that have been involved in several product recalls and foodborne outbreaks.

 

¿ Is raw milk a safe food ?

 

 

 

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[Setanta]

Not in my opinion.

[Scampi]

Nope, not for the general population

 

sure, an old boy farmer who's done it forever will tell you differently, and perhaps his system can handle it, but the general population? absolutely not

 

People have forgotten the history of folks like Louis Pasteur to whom the rest of us owe a great deal

 

https://www.britanni...y/Louis-Pasteur

[AZuzack]

Raw Milk poses the same risks of Shigella Toxin producing E.Coli (and other bacterial) contamination as eating undercooked ground or injected beef products.  There's all kinds of ways to control the likelihood of contamination but it is difficult to fully eliminate.  The producers could put the milk on a testing hold, but even the fastest E. Coli test (that I know of) is 6 hours.  Unlike beef products where cooking will likely kill off or at the very least reduce the bacteria leaving only the toxin, the raw milk will contain the bacteria which will continue to produce toxin once ingested.  

[G M]

Some of those dystopian projections for the future are coming true.  People are losing appreciation for the things keeping them alive, and forget why they were being done in the first place, only to end up deciding to stop doing them and re-learn the lesson of their importance the hard way.

[GMO]

Nope.  I never would.

 

I have eaten raw milk hard cheeses but only because I have seen some of the test results.  Not mould ripened though.  And raw milk itself?  Absolutely f-king not.  I've seen too many dairies, too many results from testing...  The people who are the "it never hurt me or my grandma" brigade seem to conveniently forget the people it did hurt aren't here to say otherwise.

 

It's not even as if 71.7oC for 15 seconds (or often nowadays 72.5oC for 25 secs) is a long time.  It's tiny in heat treatment terms.  It has barely any impact on the milk.  It's still not sterile but the worst of the nasties have gone.