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Posted 10 July 2025 - 05:39 PM

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Plant A and plant B are sister establishments, both under 9CFR.
Plant A make salami logs to be sliced at plant B.
Can the owner send over one (only one) label application including the entire processing methods from raw material at plant A to finished pre-.sliced products at plant B together?

 

 


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Posted 10 July 2025 - 05:48 PM

Only if you want to list out two es numbers on the label.


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Posted 10 July 2025 - 05:50 PM

I want to list only plant B on the label. 

I've never seen two #est on a label.


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Posted 10 July 2025 - 05:52 PM

I have seen that and is was for the same situation.

 

It can cause some confusion.


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Posted 10 July 2025 - 05:53 PM

But can I list only plant B on the label or is it inaccurate?


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Posted Yesterday, 09:12 PM

You must include the establishment number Est#B on the final product label.

 

If the label qualifies for generic approval, meaning it doesn’t include special claims or require LPDS (Labeling and Program Delivery Staff) stamping, you simply need to update the establishment number on the label and list Est#B on the Application for Label Approval.

 

However, if the label includes a claim and has already been stamped and approved by LPDS for another sister establishment, you’re allowed to use a copy of that approved label. In this case, you still need to ensure Est#B appears on the final label applied at the sister facility. This process is referred to as a “blanket” label approval, and it’s described in the FSIS Compliance Guideline for Label Approval.

 

As for including two establishment numbers, that scenario I have only seen in the following scenarios. Scenario#1, if Est#A ships a case containing ten ground beef logs to Est#B, and Est#B repackages only two logs, the logs may retain Est#A on their individual labels. Est#B must then appear on the shipping container or outer box. This labeling approach follows FSIS Directive 7220.1 and is outlined in Policy Memo 090 & 090B.

 

Scenario#2: When a product is not intended for retail sale and thus wholesale, the use of multiple establishment numbers is allowed. While this practice is not common and I wouldn't not recommended, it is allowed under current guidance. You can find further clarification online if you search askFSIS Public Q&A: Multiple Legends

 

Research the documents mentioned for further clarification.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:22 PM

Basically, I’m allowed to send label application including plant A + plant B (including the process method at plant A + the process method at plant B) and use this label approval at plant B which only slice the products. Correct?


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Posted Yesterday, 09:56 PM

This is my case:

 

Establishment A and establishment B are sister establishments (same owner but with different #Est).

 

Plant A produces salamis (from raw meat) which are then shipped to plant B where they are sliced and packaged.

 

In the label approval I have included the processing methods from the grinding of the meat (occuring at plant A) to the slicing and packaging stage (occuring at plant B).

 

Is the label approval okay to be shown to IPP?

 

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