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[QARF]

Hi,

The company that I work for i expanding their production ste installing new equipments and new automated packing line system. I am working on creating a glass and hard plastics inventory for this. There are a lot of glass panels, sensors, cable ties,conveyors, control panel /button and many other elements to this new equipments. My question is, what do you normally include in your glass and hard plastics list? Do you include everything?
We are using the FSSC22000 standard.

Thank you

[GreyeagleA]

For us we include everything on the list and we are SQF certified

[Miri]

I'm SQF.  We list everything, including the emergency exit lights over the doors (got "dinged" on that one time).

I did FSSC22000 for just one year at another company and I feel that the FSSC22000 requirements are more intense than SQF, but that is just my opinion.  

[GMO]

I'm interested on this.  For some manufacturers I've seen ALL hard plastic included, even coloured plastic which I don't think is the point and the lists get so crazy long, nobody is really checking, but I'd be curious on the views of others?

[zuoli]

Every time I go to audit suppliers, I notice that the lists for glass, hard plastic and ceramics are always lengthy. Items are easily missed, the process isn't particularly meaningful, and few people are willing to check each one individuall

[TimG]

Ok, this one to me is an area I feel industry has over complicated things. The place I am at now, the previous list (which I am still using but thinking of eliminating quite a bit from) has EVERYTHING you can think of. Even things nowhere near the higher risk areas. Head and Taillights from every forklift? The clock on the wall in maintenance? The microwave in the break room? And it gets done annually. It's obviously there just to meet code and it does absolutely nothing to minimize my risk. We do also check gauges and glass in the higher risk areas as a pre-op before each shift, which to me is the more pertinent inspection.

The annual list is just security theatre, and I hate meaningless things like that.

[GMO]

I remember a leader saying my team spent ages walking around looking at lights.

I didn't disagree with him but he had no idea of the standards we had to comply with.

 

It's complete BS and it drives me bonkers.

It drives me even more bonkers when guarding which could be lasered stainless steel is implemented with perspex, with screws through it which you just KNOW someone will overtighten in a week and crack the screen.

I suppose that's the thing.  We need to minimise it as much as possible.  But also to my mind, there is zero point having a specific list for coloured non clear plastic and I'd just include that for food contact areas in a generic prestart check sheet.  I'm not having someone ticking 100s of items but I am expecting them to check something staring at them in the bloody face.  Not guaranteed checklist or not I find.

[jfrey123]

My master glass and plastic register always included everything I could find, including on the machines.  I've always been SQF and auditors seem to really enjoy carrying a copy of this inventory sheet to go out and "find" the one item I might have missed.  At my first spice job I think it had over 1,000 items on it (spread over about 3 pages of line items, things like "Ceiling lights - 12 fixtures x 4 bulbs; 12 plastic covers" would've equaled 60 items alone but only one line item on my inspection sheet).  I took a minor my first year because of missing things like the illuminated exit signs and wall clocks.  From then on out my glass and plastic register was painfully retentive.

 

Full checks of the register were done monthly.  Daily during pre-op, equipment operators had to inspect their equipment and give a generic check off on a list that all the buttons and dials were intact.  It was effective in that we had pre-op forms mark damaged equipment, and I never found a damaged item that hadn't been previously reported.