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[Tony-C]

Shall I kick off Raw Materials specifications with SMP specification from Canada:

 SkimMilkPowder_spec1.pdf   50.65KB   278 downloads

Maybe Simon could help with packaging?

[Inesa]

Dear Yoghurt heroes,

I would like to contirbute with some theory.

 Milk1-c3.pdf   4.01MB   350 downloads

 Yoghurt1-c3.pdf   923.47KB   270 downloads

I haven't read those chapters yet, will do it later but I think there is some useful stuff for this project

p.s. What's gonna be a name of this yoghurt?
"Smon's special"
"Tony's Yogu"
"Bio Smiley"
"Charles morning"

[Simon]

Maybe Simon could help with packaging?

What do you want me to do boss?

[Tony-C]

What do you want me to do boss?

Boss!

Would you be able to come up with a specification for a printed 40 micron Aluminium foil lid with sealing lacquers?

And by any chance something like a 450g/500g capacity Printed PET Pot?

[Simon]

If it's a 71.5 pot you will get away with 30 micron. You can have polyester if you want metal detection but that will be 55 micron.

Are you sure you want foil to seal to PET pot at 40 micron?

Maybe someone else can help with the pot spec.

[Simon]

How's this boss?

 Example Specification for a Yoghurt Lid.doc   79.5KB   334 downloads

[Tony-C]

How's this boss?

 Example Specification for a Yoghurt Lid.doc   79.5KB   334 downloads

Very good, take Saturday & Sunday off as a reward

Will give you Monday off as well for a Pot specification.

[Tony-C]

And I get Saturday & Sunday off as well:

 Drywheyspec.pdf   51.09KB   259 downloads

[cazyncymru]

I'll post an example spec / flow diagram when i get a chance.

Caz x

As promised!

c xx

 HACCP Yoghurt Flow Chart.xls   58.5KB   351 downloads

Edited by Simon, 31 December 2010 - 12:03 PM.
Removed full completed HACCP and replaced with just the flow chart

[Charles.C]

Dear Caz / TonyC,

Season’s greetings !

@ Caz - Not sure if you haven’t pre-empted Tony a little but I’m sure he won’t mind.

Not a user of the Tree myself but I thought yr (traditional) hazard analysis / CCP presentation is very elegant indeed.

Dare I make a few technical comments ?

(a) The emphasis on Severity rather than Likelihood of Occurrence in the risk assessment seems a little unusual IMEX but undoubtedly a valid viewpoint.
(b) I deduce you are not too enthusiastic regarding the Codex phraseology for definition of Risk. Purely subjective of course.
© As mentioned above, I am not a routine user of the Tree so a few items puzzled me slightly -
(i) 1(A-D)/Q2 = N, is this to be interpreted as disbelief in the ability of supplier to deliver as per the (presumably perfect pathogen-wise) Purchase Specifications ?
(ii) 1C/Q3 = N, Why not “Y” or is the “chemical contamination” only relevant to antibiotics (safety-wise), which later controlled at 2C?
(iii) 2(B)/Q2/Q4, is it necessary to reject the tanker since a subsequent step seems to eliminate the hazard ?

(d) A Step number “13” in the flow chart seems to have disappeared (the number that is) in my copy. Subsequent text still perfectly understandable though fractionally displaced compared to flow chart.

(e) I appreciate that “allergen” cannot be “managed out” of the product. I assume the packaging is received fully printed including allergen advice as referred in yr plan. Is any potential mis-labelling hazard controlled by a prerequisite step or ??

(f) I like the unusually honest risk assessment of the metal detector CCP.

Will be equally interesting to see how the hazard analysis will be re-interpreted as per ISO 22000, ie adding the prps / oprps / (more, or less, ccps).

Happy New Year

Rgds / Charles.C

PS – for the benefit of giving some comparative background to other readers I hv done a little searching on the net regarding product standards, and (vaguely) relevant specification examples. Extracts are attached below.

1st batch (2 attach.) are product standards
2nd batch (15 attach.) are various (extracts) from specification related sheets which looked interesting. I hope the abbreviated titles are self-explanative. If not I can add a key later.
Sadly, didn’t see much of interest for packaging specs, not enough hazards I guess.

Have to admit most of the above can’t compete with Tony’s beautiful data sheets but hopefully of some use, perhaps there are some more nice tailor-made items in Tony’s cupboard waiting to emerge into the sun / snow (I noticed the whey spec was “pg 7”) ?

 A05 Codex std fermented milks - CXS_243e.pdf   55.91KB   187 downloads
 A06 usda specs for yoghurt.pdf   18.95KB   213 downloads

 A07 yoghurt micro spec DMHrb.png   30.86KB   47 downloads
 A08 yoghurt country comp.standards YSTtmrb.png   42.65KB   48 downloads
 A09 spray dried milk powder spec ch-mi YSTtmrb.png   42.27KB   40 downloads
 A10 milk for yoghurt spec,ph-ch-mi YST tmrb.png   18.13KB   29 downloads
 A11 flavours for yoghurt spec, mi YSTtmrb.png   19.04KB   30 downloads
 A12 starter culture for yoghurt, acty spec YSTtmrb.png   23.6KB   35 downloads
 A13 starter for yoghurt, absence contam, TSY tmrb.png   25.32KB   31 downloads
 A14 yoghurt retail, sugg.mic.std, star.cul.level, YSTtmrb.png   32.43KB   29 downloads
 A15 typ.chem.comp.dairy ingred.yog.mix, YFMch.png   29.38KB   26 downloads
 A16 USA milk std, (ext.) ph-ch-mic,YFMch.png   26.84KB   27 downloads
 A17 yoghurt nutrition panel example, ch. YFMch.png   49.16KB   28 downloads
 A18 US raw milk spec (ext) YFMch.png   61.63KB   24 downloads
 A19 yoghurt, typ.spec.blueberry YFMch.png   69.85KB   29 downloads
 A20 yoghurt, UK nutrition data typ.var.YTDPe.png   144.48KB   38 downloads
 A21 yoghurt, typ.haccp prod.spec.sheet (consumer missing) , Yho.png   36.75KB   36 downloads

PPS @ Inesa, I missed yr attachments previously, useful stuff, thks

[Simon]

I think we've jumped the gun a wee bit on this one. Fabulous documents posted, however this is supposed to be a working model and to that end the aim is to gather contributions at each stage rather than preempting with completed HACCP plan.

It's the first time something like this has been attempted here and it is not easy / may not be possible, but I see the value is in the process of developing the HACCP plan with contributions and discussion from members rather than something that has been written before or available on the internet.

I've removed the (superb) completed HACCP plan Caz posted and reuploaded it with where we were up to.

Please continue.

Thanks,
Simon

[Tony-C]

If it's a 71.5 pot you will get away with 30 micron. You can have polyester if you want metal detection but that will be 55 micron.
Are you sure you want foil to seal to PET pot at 40 micron?
Maybe someone else can help with the pot spec.

No I'm not sure. I didn't see metal detection in the process flow diagram but maybe we will come to that later.

Regards,

Tony

[Tony-C]

Please feel free to add to this:

7.3.4 Intended Use
For direct consumption
Expected handling of the end product, reasonably expected mishandling and misuse of the end product:
< 5C for 4 days in supply chain, shopping abuse (mimicked by 4 hours at 20 C) and refrigerated < 8 C for rest of shelf life. These perameters are to be replicated in shelf life testing.
Vulnerable groups - Eldery and Children

[cazyncymru]

There are plenty of different type pots / closures available.

Maybe it could be a PET, rPet,PS or maybe even a card pot

The closure could be a foil (metallic) or PET, rPet or film with an overcap.

Depending on what you'd use would influence whether you used metal detection.

[Tony-C]

There are plenty of different type pots / closures available.

Maybe it could be a PET, rPet,PS or maybe even a card pot

The closure could be a foil (metallic) or PET, rPet or film with an overcap.

Depending on what you'd use would influence whether you used metal detection.

Happy to accept suggestions & specifications for the packaging from members. Pick what you would prefer and provide a specification template.

BTY I chose foil as I prefer foil lids for luxury products. I guess it may generate some debate when we come to the hazard analysis.

Regards,

Tony

[Simon]

I already gave a specification for the lidding, what else do you want a container and what else?

[Charles.C]

Dear Tony,

BTY I chose foil as I prefer foil lids for luxury products. I guess it may generate some debate when we come to the hazard analysis.

Sorry for side-track but what does "BTY" mean ?

(None of Google's suggestions seemed to really make sense albeit quite inspiring, eg Blessings to You )

Rgds / Charles.C

Added - I hv deduced from the following posts that BTY = Back to You. Sounds like American car slang . Added to main list.
Added (2) - But also see TonyC's next (+1) post for clarification.

[cazyncymru]

Ok, lets say Foil Lid, PS pot.

C x

[Tony-C]

I already gave a specification for the lidding, what else do you want a container and what else?

For the primary packaging we need a pot specification. For the secondry packaging a cardboard tray specification would be good also if anyone has one specification for spray coding ink would be interesting.

[Tony-C]

Dear Tony,



Sorry for side-track but what does "BTY" mean ?

(None of Google's suggestions seemed to really make sense albeit quite inspiring, eg Blessings to You )

Rgds / Charles.C

Added - I hv deduced from the following posts that BTY = Back to You. Sounds like American car slang . Added to main list.

Sorry that is a typo it should have read BTW ! - By the way

[Tony-C]

 Yoghurt Process Flow Diagram Part 1 Numbered.pdf   136.15KB   252 downloads

So the next step is 7.3.5.2 Description of process steps and control measures:
Describe existing control measures, process parameters and/or procedures that may influence food safety (Including rigourousness)
External requirements from regulatory authorities

Feel free to contribute.

Regards,

Tony

[Ahmed Mahmoud]

Milk for yoghurt should be free of anti-biotic residue, because of beta-lactam anti-biotitic inhibited the fermentation process

[Tony-C]

Milk for yoghurt should be free of anti-biotic residue, because of beta-lactam anti-biotitic inhibited the fermentation process

Thank you Ahmed. This is true and inhibition of the culture organism may affect product safety as well as product quality.

So our control measures will be:

Farm Assurance and acceptance criteria for level of antibiotic in our raw materials including raw milk
pH monitoring during the fermentation process and a "Slow Vat" procedure

Regards,

Tony

[Jomy Abraham]

May be useful

Thank you Ahmed. This is true and inhibition of the culture organism may affect product safety as well as product quality.

So our control measures will be:

Farm Assurance and acceptance criteria for level of antibiotic in our raw materials including raw milk
pH monitoring during the fermentation process and a "Slow Vat" procedure

Regards,

Tony

[Jomy Abraham]

Thank you Ahmed. This is true and inhibition of the culture organism may affect product safety as well as product quality.

So our control measures will be:

Farm Assurance and acceptance criteria for level of antibiotic in our raw materials including raw milk
pH monitoring during the fermentation process and a "Slow Vat" procedure

Regards,

Tony

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