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#26 mind over matter

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 04:44 AM

Both the first article above and yr own documents (so far) seem to be missing one critical component of a typical haccp plan - Validation (eg see my earlier posts).

I am attaching the file (sample verification plan) that I have downloaded somewhere in FSQNF forums. Can we say that the act of checking a verification? And the process of checking is validation? I got a sample Verification Plan aleardy. I would greatly appreciate if anyone could give me a sample validation. Validation and verification activities/terminologies are very confusing. :helpplease:

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 09:13 PM

I am attaching the file (sample verification plan) that I have downloaded somewhere in FSQNF forums. Can we say that the act of checking a verification? And the process of checking is validation? I got a sample Verification Plan aleardy. I would greatly appreciate if anyone could give me a sample validation. Validation and verification activities/terminologies are very confusing. :helpplease:


I think that you've got the right idea but do you think verification that hazard levels are within identified acceptable levels should be done quarterly?

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 11:29 PM

Dear MOM,

Are you aware that ISO 22004 contains a detailed list of verification activities which "should" be included ?

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:36 AM

I think that you've got the right idea but do you think verification that hazard levels are within identified acceptable levels should be done quarterly?

Regards,

Tony

I’m not aware that it should be done quarterly. Thank your for this information. I need to advice the team about this frequency of verification.

Dear MOM,

Are you aware that ISO 22004 contains a detailed list of verification activities which "should" be included ?

Rgds / Charles.C

No, I am not aware. I don’t have a copy of ISO 22004. What I have is the copy of ISO 22000:2005. Please can you give me that specific paragraph that contains a detailed list of verification activities which should be included and the paragraph that applies to validation and verification?

Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it



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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:21 AM

Dear MOM,



Yes indeed. And the possibility may exist, eg

http://www.wholesome...foodrecipes.htm



Yes, by a prerequisite procedure, if there is one ? (assuming it is a significant hazard in current process, is it :smile: ?)

Rgds / Charles.C

Is it a requirement to include the allergen statement or advisory in the labeling/packaging of products?
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 04:12 AM

Dear MOM,

re - Verification / validation - there is Guidance on sections 7.8, 8.1 - 8.4 inclusive.
for example, activities include - reviewing: monitoring records, deviations, corrective actions, calibrations, implementation procedures, sampling/testing of input/output, environmental, complaints.

I would criticise yr apparent downgrading of OPRP scheduling compared to CCP since the related CMs may well be of equal significance to safety.
I think Tony was maybe questioning rather than advising.

Re- allergens, not sure yr meaning. if you are asking whether an allergen statement is required to be made on the actual packaging, yes, since this is the CM for safety ? And in the overall product specifications.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:19 AM

<P>

<BR>I think that you've got the right idea but do you think verification that hazard levels are within identified acceptable levels should be done quarterly?<BR>

<BR>I think Tony was maybe questioning rather than advising.<BR>

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<P>The Verification Plan I attached earlier contains sample data. Said Verification Plan was the one I provided the team for their guide. I noted that Tony-C’s specific question is the same as the entry on the sample Verification Plan.</P>
<P>Activity<BR>Verification that hazard levels are within identified acceptable levels</P>
<P>Purpose<BR>To ensure that levels of all the identified hazards are within specified acceptable levels.</P>
<P>Frequency<BR>Quarterly</P>
<P>Method<BR>Verify through QA-approved methods of verification that hazard levels are within acceptable levels identified in Hazard Analysis Work Sheet.</P>
<P>Responsibility<BR>FSTL</P>
<P>Post Verification Actions<BR>

<BR>Re- allergens, not sure yr meaning. if you are asking whether an allergen statement is required to be made on the actual packaging, yes, since this is the CM for safety ? And in the overall product specifications.<BR>

<BR>You’ve got it right. Sorry if my statement was not clear - language problem (English is just our second language). <BR></P>

Edited by mind over matter, 04 March 2011 - 06:32 AM.

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