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[Simon]

A colleague recently brought me a present he had acquired on a technical visit with a customer. It was a blue hairnet with a shiny silver metallic strip, about 1-cm wide, down the middle, stretching from one side to the other.

The colleague tried to trick me and asked what I thought the strange contraption was. Obviously he did not know quite whom he was dealing with and I was able to inform him without hesitation that it was a metal detectable hairnet. WHAT!

I know in the food packaging industry we are a step back in the food chain and requirements for food safety are not quite as stringent as they are in food manufacturing, but come on Metal Detectable Hairnets. Perhaps every employee should be implanted with a metal plate just in case they fall into the food.

Can anyone justify this paranoia?

Regards,
Simon

[mikelond]

Hmmm - like the photo - can't help but think of a throwback to the Monty Python era.

Seriously though, we are accredited to BRC/IOP (berkyop) standard, level A and there is no requirement for our hairnets to be metal detectable at all. We did go over to metal detectable earplugs, but only as a specific requirement of one of our major customers (bless 'em!).
The headgear that wee currently use is the same as the one being sported by yourself, but without the lightning conductor on it. What I am actually trying to find is an alternative to this, as after wearing one for a 12 hour shift, you are left with a lobotoby scar, very sore earlobes (we stipulate that they are worn down over the ears) and, in summer, a very sweaty head.
I did trial some open weave nets, which went down very well. However, they were at least twice as expensive as the current hats, and were frowned upon by our BRC auditor, as she could see hair sticking through them.
I am therefore looking for a compromise, which allows a degree of airflow around the head, but contains any loose hair. Any ideas?

Apparently the jury is still out on how hairy arms have to be before they are netted/covered, and what actually constitutes a beard before a beard snood has to be worn............................. <_<

[Simon]

Lightning conductor

Superb! It can also become an effective aerial when worn by a very tall member of staff?

Hairnets as above are like you say very uncomfortable to wear especially in summer. I will see if I can find anything that permits airflow whilst maintaining the required hair security...

Apparently the jury is still out on how hairy arms have to be before they are netted/covered, and what actually constitutes a beard before a beard snood has to be worn.

This always makes me smile, in effect it would be acceptable to have a long-haired baboon on the shop floor as long as they were wearing a hairnet and maybe a beard snood. On the other hand Duncan Goodhew would still be required to wear a hairnet. I mean what about eyebrows, nasal and ear hair? - I know people with more than enough hair in these zones to create a substantial wig or fireside rug.

TIP:
At one food manufacturer I know they have different coloured hairnets to help identify each other in the busy and noisy environment:

- Green - First Aid
- Red - H & S Committee
- Blue - Standard
- Yellow - Trainee
- Pink - Quality (joke) :D


Regards,
Simon

[Simon]

I found this company who specialise in hairnets. I wonder if these people might have an answer to the airflow v's containment argument.

Hairnets R Us

Simon

[mikelond]

Thanks for the contact , Simon. I have just e-mailed them with our useage and requirements and await their reponse.
You never know, you may have started a trend in photos of modelling hygiene/safety gear - prize for the most ridiculous?

Mike :)

[Simon]

I will take on all comers! If there are enough of us perhaps we could hold a poll to decide the winner.

Simon

[foodsafe]

i see ecc/detectamet have now available a new metal detectable beard snood, could be useful i think

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[GMO]

I think you have to ask the question; have you ever found a hairnet or beardsnood in your product? No? Have you ever seen them in pieces on the floor suggesting they might contaminate your product someday? No? Then you don't need them to be metal detectable.

Stupid products.

I agree with the arm hair thing though and in all high risk / high care factories, the workwear covers the arms (or should).

I don't notice wearing a mob cap all day now. I think if your guys start to whinge, send them round a high risk factory and when they've changed 10 times in a shift to go into the different areas, then they'll learn annoying!

Word to the wise as well; not all metal detectable products are x-ray detectable so they might be a waste of money if you have x-rays.

[Simon]

I think you have to ask the question; have you ever found a hairnet or beardsnood in your product? No? Have you ever seen them in pieces on the floor suggesting they might contaminate your product someday? No? Then you don't need them to be metal detectable.

Stupid products.

Agreed.

[a_andhika]

Obviously he did not know quite whom he was dealing with and I was able to inform him without hesitation that it was a metal detectable hairnet.

Morale lesson number one... Tell me about it...

Dear All,

It seems a funny inovation that probably not useful at all, IF the GMP was applied with well and no "suspicious" threat may occur. Probably, it will be suited for company that being cautious with deliberately contamination...

In my previous company, we found a metal scrapper on the product. As far as I am concern, its impossible to insert a 15 cm long metal into pouch without being noticed by operator. But it happen! It was suspected that another worker who deliberately put it in the pouch before sealing. But no one get caught. So, the related operator and worker get suspended... Maybe this kind of hairnet may works for a particular case like that? A bit too much?


Regards,


Arya

[Simon]

Gives me an idea for a new line of workwear, yes...Metal Detectable Overalls. A sure fire winner. Just in case a worker falls in and they don't have any jewellery.

[foodsafe]

just found a image of the new ecc/detectamet beard snood, we have been looking for these for ages.

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[Simon]

i see ecc/detectamet have now available a new metal detectable beard snood, could be useful i think

just found a image of the new ecc/detectamet beard snood, we have been looking for these for ages.

Thanks Sean (Sales Manager from ECC). That's two fascinating posts you have made to enlighten us here on the benefits and availability of metal detectable hairnets. Refreshing and not like the usual fly by night desperados who brazenly and desperately market their products and services here for free.

[GMO]

Thanks Sean (Sales Manager from ECC). That's two fascinating posts you have made to enlighten us here on the benefits and availability of metal detectable hairnets. Refreshing and not like the usual fly by night desperados who brazenly and desperately market their products and services here for free.

He really should have read the previous posts where we were slating the products and calling them out for being the total waste of time pointless cr*p we all know they are. Now I have some time for ECC because they do stock some useful items but I had to laugh when I was sent a free sample of a "metal detectable paper clip". This was a comedy, oversized, plastic, metal detectable paperclip. Now forgive me if I'm wrong, but most paperclips are metal detectable and significantly cheaper! If you happen to have a shockingly bad metal detector, you can always buy oversized metal paperclips not go to the expense (and ridiculousness) of making one out of plastic which is deliberately impregnated with metal!!!

http://www.ecc-ltd.c...t-papergrip.htm

Oh genius.

It's the "can be used as part of HACCP" comment that makes me want to get unusually violent (for a puppet). Jeez.

[Simon]

What happened to your last avatar GMO - are you trying to tell me something?

[GMO]

I'm still Dr Bunsen but in a slightly washed out form! I went pale with the embarrassment of failure!

See this thread:

http://www.ifsqn.com...t...=NaOH&st=20

[Simon]

I'm still Dr Bunsen but in a slightly washed out form! I went pale with the embarrassment of failure!

See this thread:

http://www.ifsqn.com...t...=NaOH&st=20

I totally missed that thread, anyway I think on balance you've done quite enough good around here to have your colours back.

I get things wrong every day - mistakes are good if there is a feedback connection to the brain.

Regards,
Simon

[GMO]

I fancied a change and I quite like the idea that people probably think I'm a fat bald man! I managed to convince Caz I was a bloke for ages. The fun you can have on the internet!

[Simon]

I fancied a change and I quite like the idea that people probably think I'm a fat bald man! I managed to convince Caz I was a bloke for ages. The fun you can have on the internet!

I've made many, many gender mistakes over the years, but enough of my exploits.

[cazyncymru]

I fancied a change and I quite like the idea that people probably think I'm a fat bald man! I managed to convince Caz I was a bloke for ages. The fun you can have on the internet!

It was terrible...i kept on having these dreams about a little fat man!!


we don't bother with metal detectable hairnets or beard snoods, but we use coloured ones.
only part of our operation that is open is vat innoculation, and a hair net would never go through our filters!
id never ever have white ones! (well not in a dairy anyway!)

[GMO]

It was terrible...i kept on having these dreams about a little fat man!!

Well I may be a little above the ideal BMI but I have to come out of the closet and admit I'm female.

Well maybe just at the weekends

[Simon]

Well I may be a little above the ideal BMI but I have to come out of the closet and admit I'm female.

Well maybe just at the weekends

Will you tell us your first name GMO? Is it really Genetically?

[GMO]

Will you tell us your first name GMO? Is it really Genetically?

Gordon!

No, not really. Not telling, my name is somewhat unusual and I like to keep a sense of mystery in this incestuous Technical world!

[immortal]

Is that really necessary, I do not ever think so.

[Simon]

Gordon!

No, not really. Not telling, my name is somewhat unusual and I like to keep a sense of mystery in this incestuous Technical world!

Is that really necessary, I do not ever think so.

mortal what is not really necessary - Metal detectable hairnets or GMO not divulging her real name?