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[Morgan_05]

Hey all,

I'm a new member to the forum and also this is my first haccp development. I have a contract to develop a haccp plan for bottled water. I have done a great deal of research on the project, however, I have not come across any haccp manuals or examples of haccp plans for bottled water! Thats why I thought i'd ask the HACCP gurus!!

I hope someone can help!!!

Thanks in Advance,

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[Simon]

Hey all,

I'm a new member to the forum and also this is my first haccp development. I have a contract to develop a haccp plan for bottled water. I have done a great deal of research on the project, however, I have not come across any haccp manuals or examples of haccp plans for bottled water! Thats why I thought i'd ask the HACCP gurus!!

I hope someone can help!!!

Thanks in Advance,

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Hi Morgan, Unfortunately I'm not one of the gurus of which you speak and seek. I've BUMPED your topic in the hope that you can get a response. Please be patient and welcome to the forums Morgan.



Regards,
Simon

[Morgan_05]

Thanks Simon!

Anyone with any input???

[Simon]

Hi Morgan, I did some digging and found this document:

RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN BOTTLED WATER QUALITY AND SAFETY (pdf)

It's not quite so recent as it's from 2004. The document mentions on page 7 - The IBWA Model Code

Maybe you are aware of these publications already.

It's the best I could do.

Regards,
Simon

[Suzuki]

It would be helpful if you could give us an idea of what you really need to help you out. There are also several sources of "water" that could be processed and each source prevails a different sets of potential hazards. Generic HACCP models are functional only as a reference however risk management decisions often differ due to the dynamic nature of process environment and resource. We are here to help but we cannot do that unless you present us the appropriate dynamics.

If you feel some of your data are confidential, you may direct them to me personally with the approval of Simon but I rather you post them on the forum so that every one gets a chance to contribute or learn some thing out of it.

[Morgan_05]

Thanks for the responses!

The product is actually iceberg water, harvested from North atlantic icebergs. The water will be transported to the processing facility in bulk water containers. I am more or less wondering what hazards could be associated with this product.

If there is anything else that you need, feel free to post!

Thanks again

[Charles.C]

Dear Morgan5,
Had a very quick look on the IT.
This is obviously a rather specialised topic.
Other people seem to hv considered this before as you presumably know, eg –

Harvesting Risk.
The data available to the Company indicates that the availability of ice from bergs will not be a problem. However, the data does not indicate the proximity of icebergs to the shore, which is a cost-sensitive condition for the Company. To safely and cost-effectively harvest icebergs, they must be close to shore to the point where the icebergs are actually aground or touching the bottom and generally in areas offering some protection from the open sea. The reported length of the season can also be misleading. Icebergs may be present but they must also be in a suitable location and in the process of breaking up in order to be harvested. The data currently available does not provide such detailed information. However, it is known that over the last three years, there were approximately 1,800 icebergs per year, which floated down from Northern Labrador and Greenland. Of this number, approximately 30-40% would migrate into the sheltered bays and coves where harvesting can take place. There can be no guarantee, however, as to how many of these icebergs actually reach close enough to shore and in sheltered locations where they can be safely and economically harvested.
Sub-Contractor Performance.
The Company relies upon sub-contracted vessels to assist in harvesting its ice supply. There is a risk of default or non- performance by these sub-contractors.
Processing Risk.
The extent of raw material handling before final production poses an element of risk. The Company's Quality Assurance/Quality Control (QA/QC) manager has developed and monitors procedures and ensures adherence to raw material and finished product specifications. Regular lab analysis is conducted at all stages of the process. The Company is moving to implement a Hazard Analysis of Critical Control Points ("HACCP") system and is pursuing ISO 9000 certification. As a member of the International Bottled Water Association, the Company also has access to technical resources and is subject to an annual independent review of the Company's manufacturing processes.

http://msnmoney.bran...-8-oWyf5I-4GL29

The aspect of source evaluation of iceberg water is also referred to in passing within the detailed “drinking water” codes of practice linked here –
http://www.cfis.agr....des_tbl_e.shtml

Regret didn’t yet see a complete haccp plan for icebergs. but not to say that it isn't around somewhere on the IT.

As far as haccp plans of “routine’ drinking water supplies are concerned I noticed a few comprehensive looking items but which unfortunately required money input for full details. The links below which are practical oriented are limited scope evaluations but maybe of some interest –

http://www.ghd.com.a...;FILE/e4126.pdf

The Australians seem to prefer a variant of HACCP to include distribution systems etc –

http://www.nhmrc.gov...6_chapter_1.pdf

The water treatment aspect is addressed here –

 haccp_in_drinking_water_.pdf   140.86KB   354 downloads

Rgds / Charles.C

added - it might be helpful if you already hv some relevant on-line links to yr particular areas of concern to post them here and maybe get some peoples's opinions and possible further cross - links. Even gurus need food sometimes

added(2) - I forgot to mention that a link withinn Simon's great starter has a very good appraisal of the overall subject although not saying too much about icebergs

http://www.bottledwa...3_rev_Jun03.pdf

[Suzuki]

If there is anything else that you need, feel free to post!

To determine a viable and technically sound hazard risk assessment for the purpose of enabling risk management decisions to determine the structure of your HACCP Plan, it would be helpful if you could let us know what the "process kill steps" are i.e. ozone treatment or other critical process treatments that you can identify that would significantly eliminate, prevent or reduce such hazards to an acceptable level.

The process flow is one of the 5 preliminary steps to enable a viable risk assessment. Without that we are both probing for answers. You can look at a dozen generic HACCP Plans and still get no where!

[erum]

recently IBWA strictly asked to check Arsenic and Bromate test of Finished and raw water at least once in a year.I want to ask that if these contaminantes present in water than shall we includet these contaminates in Hazard analysis work sheet.If yes than how do we monitored it if found it as a CCP

Edited by erum, 17 November 2008 - 09:59 AM.

[Charles.C]

Dear Erum,

Well, as far as EC is concerned, arsenic (and probably bromate also) are covered by the extensive drinking water regulations (as similarly by WHO and USFDA). The compliance of such items is usually part of the prerequisite section in HACCP, ie they are mandatory within the preliminary aspects to initiating a production flow.

Rgds / Charles.C