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Posted 24 October 2008 - 11:20 AM

Dear Forum,

This is another story about melamine disaster. Its amazing how the melamine can freely into other material... As far as i know, egg is one major component of the average Chinese citizen diet. Gee..How can they do it to their own people... But the most worryin thing IMO is, if egg was tainted, then it may attacked the meat products too. Just for the sake to get high protein content.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27320256/


To Newsgirl,

Do you have any news about artificial eggs from China? Its been a while since 2007 in my memory, but nowadays in our country its a boom news again. Do you have any updates? Or can you BUMP it? Many thanks if you may grant it.


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Posted 26 October 2008 - 09:14 AM

Hello Arya,

Newsgirl is very good at finding news on the internet, but I have to tell you she is very, very shy. So shy in fact she cannot hold a conversation (even anonymously online). :smile: I have searched back through the archives but unfortunately I cannot find anything for you.

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:58 AM

Dear All,

Amazingly, throughout this whole sad affair, I don't think I hv seen a single mention regarding the discussion / specific implementation of "traceability" procedures (at either end) which is presumably the root cause of cases now "springing" up in unpredictable locations. Only exceptions in areas like EC which intriguingly seems to have already had some existing prevention of import of related products in effect (for unrelated reasons).

I am curious as to what documentation procedures were typically used by buyers importing the original materials as to the status of the producers quality control setups (in addition to the usual mandatory official analyses). Systems like BRC were presumably not generally involved due to the geographical aspects.

HACCP ??

ISO 22000 ???

ISO 9000 ??

None ???

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 01:50 PM

Hi Charles,

Just last week, I was thinking to myself, Has the HACCP system failed us? Isn't the system set up to prevent things like these from happening?

I guess its the case of profitability vs food safety??

Hi Arya,

Are you talking about the forward msg about how China make fake eggs? I must say this is the first time I have come across this issue...

And since there are no credible reports on these eggs, it probably is a hoax. Or are you referring to another news?


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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:58 AM

Dear Charles C.,

To get latest info about the recalls, you might interested to visit this web:

http://www.fda.gov/o...s/melamine.html

IMO, this is no longer system that we're talkin about. I mean, what kind of system that may control morality of human (besides God of course). Oh well, the truth is (still) out there...



To Hongyun,
Yups, that was I lookin' for. Thank you. Humm, unfortunately I guess the justification of the hoax is still the same blur as the news. I still cant get proven documents about this incidents. This is another questionable news with different point of view from yours:

http://en.epochtimes...9-11/59598.html

BTW, the fake egg incident in our country is still under investigate. Our authorities still analyze it. The muttering fake eggs are probably just unfertile eggs which have different texture than the "real" one when cooked. Guess the media blow it up too much.


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Posted 30 October 2008 - 10:54 AM

The melamine producers confessed saying they have sold to Sea food processors.





http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-melamine29-2008oct29,0,4227714.story


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