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Posted 22 February 2009 - 03:02 PM

Dear all:

I hav seen in the last week when i went to some construction sites temporary food facilities in different places .
they serve foods to the constructions labors whom are working in the site.
After the projects complete these canteens will be closed.but Iam wondering,Do these facilities have any guidelines or requirements have to be followed to serve safe food ?,because these canteens open and expose to dusts and sands.
when I asked the project managers they said we have to make these canteens because it will be difficult for workers to go out of the site to fitch foods.for this reason they open this canteens after municipality permission(food control section).
But now i dont now if there are standards or not?

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 04:38 PM

I think it depends where you are. In the UK they would have to obey all the same laws as any other food site, however, that doesn't mean they do. In one site I worked in, there was a van which set up opposite and of course, when you're a food production site, you get even more antsy about people potentially making themselves ill as they could pass it on to customers.

We reported the van to the local environmental health who admitted it had not been inspected but also said they "did not have time" to visit it. So the fact is, they should follow the law in the UK, however many don't.

If you're unsure, the first point of call is normally the regulatory authorities but they might not be able to help. The next point of call (bizarrely) in the UK might be the planning department of a local council as they are more likely to be able to immediately act if there's a place you have a specific concern about as they may not be allowed to run a business from that location.



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Posted 23 February 2009 - 05:25 PM

I think it depends where you are. In the UK they would have to obey all the same laws as any other food site, however, that doesn't mean they do. In one site I worked in, there was a van which set up opposite and of course, when you're a food production site, you get even more antsy about people potentially making themselves ill as they could pass it on to customers.

We reported the van to the local environmental health who admitted it had not been inspected but also said they "did not have time" to visit it. So the fact is, they should follow the law in the UK, however many don't.

If you're unsure, the first point of call is normally the regulatory authorities but they might not be able to help. The next point of call (bizarrely) in the UK might be the planning department of a local council as they are more likely to be able to immediately act if there's a place you have a specific concern about as they may not be allowed to run a business from that location.


Dear GMO:
I deem these sites which includ small canteens are taking approval from local authority and they must hereby to close them when the project finish.But several of food poisoning cases reported and recorded in the construction site.Iam sure because no&absence care to store/serve/handle ready-to eat foods.So Iam looking for any requirements for these temporary facilities.
If you have please dont hesitate to send me any guidelines that be helpful for those faction.

hygienic

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Edited by hygienic, 23 February 2009 - 06:50 PM.


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Posted 24 February 2009 - 10:07 PM

Dear GMO:
I deem these sites which includ small canteens are taking approval from local authority and they must hereby to close them when the project finish.But several of food poisoning cases reported and recorded in the construction site.Iam sure because no&absence care to store/serve/handle ready-to eat foods.So Iam looking for any requirements for these temporary facilities.
If you have please dont hesitate to send me any guidelines that be helpful for those faction.

hygienic

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Sorry, I don't understand your reply and I don't know where you're from so I can't tell you if UK advice is appropriate. I don't think you can assume they're approved even in the UK with the level of hygiene legislation we have.

As with any food poisoning, it's very hard to prove it's caused by what the person thinks it's caused by (and they're normally wrong as most food poisonings have a lag time.) If people are reporting food poisoning symptoms though, the normal procedure would be to see a doctor and request a stool test and report that several similar incidents have occurred.

"Iam sure because no&absence care to store/serve/handle ready-to eat foods." I don't know what that means. Do you mean they have no refrigeration? All you can do is report this to the appropriate authorities and request the staff don't use it in the meantime.


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Posted 08 April 2009 - 06:31 AM

Dear Hygienic / Monzer,

Yes, there are clearly several factors for the food supplier to consider, particularly depending on his desire to be official or not, food safe or not. The latter will obviously relate to the type of food involved and consumer also.
This thread is "fairly" international and applies to a “wishing to be responsible” operator.

http://www.ifsqn.com...?showtopic=9594

Rgds / Charles.C


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Charles.C




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