Perfect timing, I am sitting in an AIB audit right now and we are going through our system. I attached the english version but there are other languages availalble at aibonline.org
Hi Tsmith,
Thanks for the document. I just red through the standards. It seems to me that this standard is both more detailed and more practical.
It gives more practical directions, where BRC and IFS let you free to implement one system or another. First I thought that there were less risk assessment requirements but [CTRL] [F] gives a few results on this search item.
It seems a little strange that you would find that much disconnect and makes it seem like the AIB audit was not well done. Unfortunately that can happen as seen by the peanut recall issue in the US last year. AIB audited them right before they were shut down by the FDA.
Please take my excuses. I did not mean to say that the audit was not well done. I just was curious for the standard. I have no experience with this standard and ( I do not know why) had always presumed it was a standard which was strict and hard to achieve. Now this customer was telling me that the audit is more focussed on the processes and have hardly no document or managemen requirements. This seemed really strange to me. Now, after reading the AIB standard I know that my customer was wrong.
I would not say that the audit was not properly conducted. I do not know how long ago the audit has been conducted. Today the same customer told me that a AIB audit is planned for the next month.
We have a very good auditor that comes here and have always learned something from the process.
Wonderful to have a good auditor. Try to keep him. It is always nice if there is a good contact between auditor and auditee and both are still learning during the audit processes.


Just to get rid of my frustrations: I finished the audit today and it is a new record: 2 Fundamentals, 17 majors and 21 minors for BRC

! I have not even count the deviations and non-conformities for IFS. It seemed that the company was not ready for
certification at all. They use to be certificated against ISO 9001, but the
certification stopped in the beginning of 2008. Not only the
certification, but also the maintaining of all the implemented procedures. After 2007 there have been no MR, no internal audits, no trend analyses, no supplier evaluation, etc. It was a reallly strange audit.