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[D-D]

We make low risk flavour ingredients (essential oils, oleoresins etc). We also buy a lot that are either used internally or traded on. If they are used here they are covered by HACCP plans as a raw material, even if they are just repacked. My question is, do we need some sort of HACCP plan for items that are traded straight on without opening or are they covered simply by supplier assurance and all the documentation, audits etc behind that? Thanks.

[D-D]

I'm "bumping" my own thread as no replies yet...!

[faisal rafique]

According to my knowledge, there may be no need of HACCP if you are not opening or not repacking raw materials. Suppliers certificates are there for your support. Some GMP procedures may be there to helpful i.e pest control, storage and distribution etc. There may be a problem when any special storage condition is a requirement for any particular ingredient e.g temperature, then you have to be careful.

Faisal

[Charles.C]

Dear D-D,

I'm not sure I understand your post. It sounds like you are essentially running 2 (independent?) businesses.

I assume yr query is not related to any particular standard.

I also assume no legislative aspects are involved.

From a haccp POV, i guess it depends on the stated scope of yr haccp system. eg if the scope refers to produced items ABC (eg business1) and some arbitrary (business2) product X is received/stored/despatched with no hazardous potential for interaction with the process chain for items ABC, it's presumably outside the scope of the haccp system.
The appropriate "cover" for X then presumably depends on yr customer's specification(s).

Sorry if I've misunderstood.

Rgds / Charles.C

[D-D]

Hi both,
Not really two businesses but some stuff we make and other, we buy. If it is repacked then we have a HACCP plan for that and I had an idea the other day:
After the Purchase step we have QC test and release of a traded item and the main point of the plan is then repacking. For those items that are not repacked I thought if I add an arrow straight down to storage and distribution if something is not repacked and so bypassing those steps, then I can cover both scenarios.

[cazyncymru]

We make low risk flavour ingredients (essential oils, oleoresins etc). We also buy a lot that are either used internally or traded on. If they are used here they are covered by HACCP plans as a raw material, even if they are just repacked. My question is, do we need some sort of HACCP plan for items that are traded straight on without opening or are they covered simply by supplier assurance and all the documentation, audits etc behind that? Thanks.

I would say that if these items are merely passing through you're warehouse, and you are not "handling " them in any other way, then you are possibly acting as an "Agent" for these ingredients for your customers.

The handling of these items should then be part of your pre-requisites, and as you risk assess your pre-requisites, risk assess this to (as you know, you need evidence of every decision you make)

As a belts and braces approach, you should ensure that you have a certificate of conformity for each item, and maybe hold a copy of the supplier's (to you)HACCP.

That's how i would approach it.

Caz x

Don't forget, if any of these items are allergenic, you need to include them in you allergen risk assessment.