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Posted 22 June 2013 - 03:46 PM

What are the CCPs for refinded oil manufacturing e.g. in the process of RBD Palm Oil?
We are looking for a new supplier. One of the candidates has a process without any CCP. He is arguing that monitoring and CPs/QCPs are sufficient. Can this be acceptable with respect to foreign bodies, contaminants etc.?
Our recent suppliers have several CCPs in place.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 06:17 PM

What are the CCPs for refinded oil manufacturing e.g. in the process of RBD Palm Oil?
We are looking for a new supplier. One of the candidates has a process without any CCP. He is arguing that monitoring and CPs/QCPs are sufficient. Can this be acceptable with respect to foreign bodies, contaminants etc.?
Our recent suppliers have several CCPs in place.
Rgds
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Dear Moskito,

 

As usual, I guess it may depend on yr exact process and method of risk analysis / CCP determination.

 

The  organisation below appears mainly in (CCP) agreement with yr new supplier as per their criteria /  given situation

 

Attached File  haccp plan refined palm,palm kernel oil.pdf   185.11KB   351 downloads

 

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:43 PM

Dear CharlesC
thanks for your reply. You have added the fediol sheet for feed. I will add it for food. There is no CCP, but several PrPs.
But nevertheless, we are buying RBD palm oil (refind bleached and desodorized)which is not totally covered by the fediol scheme. I think all of the huge european oil suppliers for food will follow fediol association proposals in general. I wonder that all of my recent supplliers (gobal players) has introduced CCPs, but the new candidate not. For me it is not clear whether I should except a process without any CCP.
e.g. foreign body - as typical for this industry the company has a GAF-filter before filling the vessel (in that case it is a question of definition, whether the foreign bodies are controlled here or in several stages before with several filters)
e.g. temperature in desodorization - removal of contaminants -> CCP is in all other case a minimum temperature (the new candidate argues that in the case of to low temperature taste and ffa will be unacceptable for their quality criteria).
I couldn't find in literature no indication for a correlation of ffa and contaminants.
I would be interested to learn more about risk assessment of RBB palm manufacturing in non-EC countries, especially with respect to CCPs.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:45 PM

Here is the file
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:45 PM

Here is the file
Rgds moskito

Dear Moskito,

 

Thks for the file.

 

Actually, as far as I can see,  neither of the Plans is ultimately for palm oil, per se. :smile:

 

i wonder if the spec. for the, presumably, intermediate refined palm oil is different in the 2 cases ?. Maybe the animal feed is more strict (?), the final Plan certainly has more hazards in it. :smile:

 

Basically i suppose the decision simply depends on the (human / animal / human) risk assessment, as usual. And the definition of PRP.

 

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