5 replies to this topic

[CaliforniaFS]

Hello,

 

I'm reviewing our HACCP plan and feel that I need to change the only CCP we have to not be a CCP.

 

It's checking the ppm of chlorine at our hydrocooler.

The hydrocooler automatically emits chlorine when the level is below 200 ppm.

 

The company has had is as a CCP and to check the PPM every hour.

 

For several years the PPM has never been off, it's always been at the proper ppm.

 

The commodity needs to be washed and cooked prior to eating too.

 

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

[Mr. Incognito]

What do you make?

 

Is the product unsafe to consume/use if the chlorine is under 200ppm?

[MM1]

Hi

 

I think that the certain level of chlorine you are measuring has to be a CCP if this level of Chlorine is the only step where the micro load is reduced to an acceptable level in the product and there is no further step where you could reduce it further. 

 

The hydrocooler chlorine levels may never fall below the set acceptable limit but you need to demonstrate that actual levels are present.

 

You can change the frequency of checks since several years monitoring has shown that the PPM has never been off.

 

MM

[Charles.C]

Dear California S,

 

I am predicting this is for Fresh Produce.

 

Without yr comment regarding "cooked", ie Raw RTE Fresh Produce the step is a popular CCP although of (often) debated validity.

 

The "usual suspects" are salmonella / pathogenic E.coli species

 

With a later (full) cooking step probably not a CCP but it may depend on exact flow chart / usage / adequacy of cooking / labelling (?)

 

Insufficient data.

 

Rgds / Charles.C

[Charles Chew]

I agree with MM1's view. Also there is a high possibility that the intended consumption could well be a "ready-to-eat" raw perishable fresh produce or possibly used as garnishing purposes .... endless possibilities!

[Charles.C]

I agree with MM1's view. Also there is a high possibility that the intended consumption could well be a "ready-to-eat" raw perishable fresh produce or possibly used as garnishing purposes .... endless possibilities!

Hi Charles/MM1,

 

You mean you have evidence to disbelieve the OP ?

 

Or just a "gut' feeling ?

 

Rgds / Charles