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#1 it_rains_inside

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 06:42 PM

Hey all,

 

Just wondering if anyone out there creating internal audit forms for their company pulls questions directly from the standard? I change the wording only minimally so that it makes sense out of the context of the standard, but often i leave the phrasing of the major points untouched. (We are under BRC - there aren't very many ways I've found to paraphrase some points without losing a specific, or the intent.)

 

Is this a plagiarizing issue?? I am still pretty new to food safety, so kind rely heavily on what the books tell me. and I haven't seen a ton of other internal audit forms.

 

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:05 PM

Hey all,

 

Just wondering if anyone out there creating internal audit forms for their company pulls questions directly from the standard? I change the wording only minimally so that it makes sense out of the context of the standard, but often i leave the phrasing of the major points untouched. (We are under BRC - there aren't very many ways I've found to paraphrase some points without losing a specific, or the intent.)

 

Is this a plagiarizing issue?? I am still pretty new to food safety, so kind rely heavily on what the books tell me. and I haven't seen a ton of other internal audit forms.

 

Thanks for the help!!

From what I've seen (*disclaimer - not too much) auditors love exact phrasing.  I've never run across a plagiarism issue.

 

I generally tend to edit my internal audits pretty frequently to reflect issues on the floor (if we have a several instances of items uncovered, I put it on the audit until it is addressed / ingrained in culture).

 

I am audited to several different standards, so I have to rephrase occasionally to meet both standards, or choose the standard with the stricter requirement.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:47 PM

I am with Magenta - I lift phrases directly from standards (Customer, BRC/SQF and regulatory) and rephrase where necessary to cover all the standards. I audit to the highests requirement from all the standards.

 

Some auditors (particularly CFIA meat inspectors) require the exact wording in policies/procedures/documents.

 

Also I am sometimes rather lazy so it is much easier to copy and paste into a document than to spend the time actually typing in my own words  :roflmao:

 

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:25 PM

I am with Magenta - I lift phrases directly from standards (Customer, BRC/SQF and regulatory) and rephrase where necessary to cover all the standards. I audit to the highests requirement from all the standards.

 

Some auditors (particularly CFIA meat inspectors) require the exact wording in policies/procedures/documents.

 

Also I am sometimes rather lazy so it is much easier to copy and paste into a document than to spend the time actually typing in my own words  :roflmao:

 

S

 

This is perfect, exactly what I needed to hear ladies, thanks!!


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:07 PM

I have actually seen an auditor (who I thought was unreasonable) react negatively to the use of synonyms. 

 

I agree with magenta and Spurs Girl, in this case I usually use the exact wording. 


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:28 AM

Dear it rains inside,

 

i wouldn't know if it's relevant to OP but you might note that the so-called "self assessment" form freely offered by BRC is ,IIRC, specifically stated to be not acceptable for BRC  purposes as an internal audit form.

(Presumably you just change it around a bit / retitle  :smile: )

 

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 03:43 PM

Thanks to all! Exactly what i needed to know!


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