Jump to content

  • Quick Navigation
Photo

Citrus Pips in Juice Production

Share this

Best Answer , 06 November 2018 - 12:55 PM

Hi Andy,

I agree with your current approach. Obviously we don't have much formal guidance of foreign body size (and they're arguably inherent rather than foreign in origin ;) ) but larger pips along the longest dimension could perhaps challenge the 7mm FDA limit that's often a handy guide.

If you're defining intended user as all age groups then this should definitely also be considered - a quick google suggests nuts and seeds are a very common choking hazard for young children.

In terms of quantifying risk, the likelihood of presence is also presumably fairly high, unless you have an unusual extraction process and/or other controls for this prior to the final sieve?
I've just had a quick look at process flow diagrams / CCP details for all of our citrus juice suppliers (spanning small to larger European and South African operations and extremely large Brazilian sites) to check my own thought process and these all set the final sieve as a CCP, but to be honest that's fairly typical for juice processors in general IME, even for products without such an obvious potential for pips.

If nothing else it means that you know you are in control of it, and I really can't see any regulator or auditor quibbling with it either.


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
2 replies to this topic

Andy_Yellows

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • 201 posts
  • 37 thanks
26
Excellent

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Anglia, UK
  • Interests:Football, Dr Pepper

Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:26 AM

Hi everyone,

 

Just looking to get opinions on the level of hazard presented by pips in oranges and grapefruits- obviously they're something you want out of your squeezed juice for quality purposes but I can't figure out how to assess them in our HACCP. On the one hand I feel like these are a low-medium risk as the pips are small and usually slide down fairly easily (I know I've swallowed a couple in the past and not struggled) but on the other hand I don't really know whether an infant/toddler or an elderly person would find it as easy. I have had sieving as a CCP until now to be on the safe side, with the sieve integrity pre and post production as the critical limit but would like to know if I'm being overcautious by doing this.

 

Regards,

 

Andy


On the Ball, City


pHruit

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 2,072 posts
  • 849 thanks
537
Excellent

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Composing/listening to classical music, electronics, mountain biking, science, sarcasm

Posted 06 November 2018 - 12:55 PM   Best Answer

Hi Andy,

I agree with your current approach. Obviously we don't have much formal guidance of foreign body size (and they're arguably inherent rather than foreign in origin ;) ) but larger pips along the longest dimension could perhaps challenge the 7mm FDA limit that's often a handy guide.

If you're defining intended user as all age groups then this should definitely also be considered - a quick google suggests nuts and seeds are a very common choking hazard for young children.

In terms of quantifying risk, the likelihood of presence is also presumably fairly high, unless you have an unusual extraction process and/or other controls for this prior to the final sieve?
I've just had a quick look at process flow diagrams / CCP details for all of our citrus juice suppliers (spanning small to larger European and South African operations and extremely large Brazilian sites) to check my own thought process and these all set the final sieve as a CCP, but to be honest that's fairly typical for juice processors in general IME, even for products without such an obvious potential for pips.

If nothing else it means that you know you are in control of it, and I really can't see any regulator or auditor quibbling with it either.



Thanked by 1 Member:

Andy_Yellows

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • 201 posts
  • 37 thanks
26
Excellent

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Anglia, UK
  • Interests:Football, Dr Pepper

Posted 06 November 2018 - 01:49 PM

Hi pHruit, thank you for your detailed response. Of course, you're right in saying the pips are inherant rather than foreign! Glad to see I'm not overdoing it. As it happens I have had an auditor question why this is a CCP and it did make me doubt whether it was necessary but we'll stick with it for now.

 

Thanks,

 

Andy


On the Ball, City




Share this

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users