Jump to content

  • Quick Navigation
Photo

Metal Detection for Re-Packager of Freeze Dried Fruits & Vegetable

metal detection

Best Answer Gnarl, 12 February 2019 - 10:16 AM

Metal detection capapability is, amongst other factors, mainly influenced by detector aperture size. 

Means your supplier is most likely working with worse values than you would typically desire for consumer sized products. 

Request their current standards, if they exceed Ferrous: 1,5mm NFe: 2,0mm and Stainless: 3,0mm I would suggest to either 

check while filling or control the single filled pouches. 

Go to the full post


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 PFC-SImple Again

PFC-SImple Again

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 11 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United States
    United States

Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:39 PM

We are looking to start re-packaging Bulk supplied freeze dried banana slices, strawberries, blueberries, pineapple chunks and spinach, kale, coconut, and powdered beets and avocado. 

Our bulk is supplied in 28lb to 42lb boxes. 

We have a "clean" room prepared with curtians, etc. 

The re-packaging with be completed by had with plastic scoops into LLDPE gusseted bottom bags. 

Do they need to be passed through metal detection again? 



#2 Scampi

Scampi

    Fellow

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 2,832 posts
  • 779 thanks
344
Excellent

  • Canada
    Canada
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:56 PM

Is there any RISK to product being contaminated with metal during this process?


Because we always have is never an appropriate response!


#3 PFC-SImple Again

PFC-SImple Again

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 11 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United States
    United States

Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:15 PM

Plastic scoops will be used to fill bags, weigh checked and sealed by hand. The bulk that we purchase that is metal checked at the producer come in glued and taped boxes. Dbl. Bagged. 

The only metal in the room is SS NSF tables and the scale. No cutting or scraping from tables. 



#4 FSQA

FSQA

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • 287 posts
  • 116 thanks
43
Excellent

  • United States
    United States

Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:19 PM

Do they need to be passed through metal detection again

Do they pass through a metal detector, at a facility under your process or is the supplier's?

 

 

 

We are looking to start re-packaging Bulk supplied freeze dried banana slices, strawberries, blueberries, pineapple chunks and spinach, kale, coconut, and powdered beets and avocado. 

Our bulk is supplied in 28lb to 42lb boxes. 

We have a "clean" room prepared with curtians, etc. 

The re-packaging with be completed by had with plastic scoops into LLDPE gusseted bottom bags. 

Do they need to be passed through metal detection again? 

Are you bulk packaging it for a customer, for the product to be processed further (most probably) or is it going to an end consumer (less likely)?

IMO: if it is going to be further processed by your customer and if they are aware of the hazard, as they are going to run the finished product under a metal detector, you should be fine. However, IMO, regardless of the clean status of the room and plastic scoops, there is always a chance of metal inclusion from your processing lines (if any)/ Employees. However, as Scampi mentioned in the post above, it all depends on your risk assessment of the process.



Thanked by 1 Member:

#5 PFC-SImple Again

PFC-SImple Again

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 11 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United States
    United States

Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:33 PM

Do they pass through a metal detector, at a facility under your process or is the supplier's?

 

 

 

Are you bulk packaging it for a customer, for the product to be processed further (most probably) or is it going to an end consumer (less likely)?

IMO: if it is going to be further processed by your customer and if they are aware of the hazard, as they are going to run the finished product under a metal detector, you should be fine. However, IMO, regardless of the clean status of the room and plastic scoops, there is always a chance of metal inclusion from your processing lines (if any)/ Employees. However, as Scampi mentioned in the post above, it all depends on your risk assessment of the process.

We would be re-packaging to distribute to our customers in 16oz to 12oz bags. 



#6 Scampi

Scampi

    Fellow

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 2,832 posts
  • 779 thanks
344
Excellent

  • Canada
    Canada
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 28 January 2019 - 03:01 PM

Are you metals tables et all under daily inspection for integrity? If so, I would (safely) assume that your risk is very very low and therefore the installation of a metal detector is not required.

 

As long as you are inspecting the metal you do have in close proximity to the re bagging area.


Because we always have is never an appropriate response!


Thanked by 1 Member:

#7 PFC-SImple Again

PFC-SImple Again

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 11 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • United States
    United States

Posted 28 January 2019 - 03:23 PM

Our procedure require daily inspection of all handling equipment, tables, and scales before start-up each morning. 

Cleaning and inspection has standard reporting for hazard and corrective action. 



#8 Scampi

Scampi

    Fellow

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 2,832 posts
  • 779 thanks
344
Excellent

  • Canada
    Canada
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 28 January 2019 - 04:05 PM

IMO i wouldn't install a metal detector in this case


Because we always have is never an appropriate response!


Thanked by 1 Member:

#9 SQFconsultant

SQFconsultant

    SQFconsultant

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 3,161 posts
  • 814 thanks
669
Excellent

  • United States
    United States
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Truth is like a delicious slice of watermelon... you just want more and more!

Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:08 PM

The supplier doing the metal check is great, however I would not directly rely on it. I would install a metal detector at your location as well.  Thus, I concur with Scampi


Kind regards,
Glenn Oster
 
GOC Group | +1.772.646.4115 | Serving the Food, Food Packaging, DC, Restaurant & Hotel Industry 
SQF On-Site & Remote System Development, Implementation & Certification Consultants
GFSI (Broadscope) Certification Continuity eConsultants | EMF Consulting | Approved Supplier
Business Operations Consultants | Food Business Turn-Around Consultant
Internal Auditor, PCQI & Consultant Start-Up Training | eConsultant | SQF-GAP | EMF Consulting
Serving Small to Large Businesses in the United States, Costa Rica, Panama & Caribbean Islands

http://www.GlennOsterConsulting.com  

 

 

 

 

 


Thanked by 1 Member:

#10 Gnarl

Gnarl

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 1 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Earth
    Earth

Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:16 AM   Best Answer

Metal detection capapability is, amongst other factors, mainly influenced by detector aperture size. 

Means your supplier is most likely working with worse values than you would typically desire for consumer sized products. 

Request their current standards, if they exceed Ferrous: 1,5mm NFe: 2,0mm and Stainless: 3,0mm I would suggest to either 

check while filling or control the single filled pouches. 



Thanked by 1 Member:




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users