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[Yoloooo]

Hello All,

Does anybody is using fogging system in their food plant ?
I am looking for fogging machine that would do the job , and afterwards I wouldn’t have to do rinse. Of course, I would like to use it in the rooms where is food contact surfaces.
Any recommendations?

[zoelawton]

Hi, 

 

I will be following this thread. I recently was informed about fogging in a meeting with out cleaning chemical suppliers, i'd never heard of it before!

 

The only thing that alarmed me about the idea of fogging was how do you then complete a rinse afterwards? 

[kfromNE]

Hello All,

Does anybody is using fogging system in their food plant ?
I am looking for fogging machine that would do the job , and afterwards I wouldn’t have to do rinse. Of course, I would like to use it in the rooms where is food contact surfaces.
Any recommendations?

 

I would contact your chemical company and see what they have. They can also give you advice. One thing with the fog machines - you have to look at how soon after you need people in the room without protective gear. We've had issues in the past when they've used the machine then people have come in a few hours later and some staff had breathing issues.  We use it on Friday nights only since we don't have production on weekends.

[The Food Scientist]

We do pesticide fogging. 

 

Need to contact the company and get more info.

 

Some chemicals do not need a rinse step. So it is best to contact your supplier and ask for info on the chemical you will be using (SDS) and any procedures.

[Yoloooo]

Hi guys , I already did contact so many chemical companies , some of them saying you don’t have rinse off and some of them say you have to , ( using the same chemicals ) .

Oh yes that is true you cannot have people coming into the room for good few your after a fogging.

I am from Europe originally, and that is not issue over there , you can, here is more difficult

[zoelawton]

For me it's not what the chemical companies say / what chemicals are used, all chemicals used need a water rinse in my place, i would have thought this standard for most food places?

 

All food contact surfaces need a potable water rinse. This hasn't come up in BRC yet but we would fail our organic audit if we did not do this.

[Jim E.]

We use a fogger in our freezers and follow manufacturer specifications to apply sanitizer at no more than 200ppm.  This then does not require a rinse after use.  Never had issues or compliance issues from any audits with this program. 

 

If you have Ecolab service that is who we use.

[Fishlady]

We fog our coolers and the production areas weekly.  We use a no-rinse quat or peracetic acid solution.  Coolers are done at night when they have been emptied of their contents, and production areas are done over the weekend.  This has worked well for us so far in terms of micro counts and has not posed problems for employee health.

[QABrisbane]

Yes, we do pest fogging. But we dont have a machine inhouse for doing it.

 

Our pest fogging is done  over the weekend by our pest control provider monthly.

 

We are currently looking into getting organic certified and our fogging chemicals are posing to be an obstacle in our path atm.

[carine]

we are doing  fogging for the surrounding the premises but not production area. 

[Ms Salad]

our factory uses fogging treatment after we fail the air quality (environmental) test. Night cleaning team leaves the fogging machine in the affected area, no rinsing afterwards. Chemical is KWIKSAN 22.

 

So far so good. However we tend not to to all production areas only the areas which fail the air sampler test. Excessive use of fogging treatment can cause mould growing.

 

Hope it helps.

 

[Bunny]

if used correctly ulv cold fogging of disinfectants is a effective tool in the armory.

 

There are some formulations that are food safe, it is just a matter of application and don't require rinsing.

 

if you wished to take the belt and brace approach you could instigate a rinsing after the contact time has been completed.

 

ULV (ultra low volume) does what it says on the tin, if the product is used and the timings for applications are adhered to then there should be negligible residue and if using food safe products it would be safe to use. The possible reason for breathing difficulties is either over application or basic ignoring advice and entering a treated area too soon.

 

The droplets are as small as 5 microns and will hang in the air for at least 2 hours.