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#1 minighi

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 08:04 PM

Hello all, I work in a cookie dough factory and we plan on packing bulk cookie dough into 3lb plastic tubs. The plan is to send the packed product through a metal detector or x-ray to ensure the product is free from any foreign material. The issue is that we don't have the proper equipment to do this for this specific product. Obviously I would love to just go out and buy a new metal detector but I don't have that authority and I don't the my CEO would be ok with me spending all that money lol. Does any one have any suggestions on what we could use? or what I should be looking for? Thanks! 



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Posted 08 January 2021 - 08:12 PM

Cookie dough is incredible dense. I really think you're only options is to get a dedicated machine. Whatever you currently have isn't going to be large enough to penetrate that product. :(

 

I'd be pushing for x-ray for this product


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Posted 09 January 2021 - 04:31 AM

Hello all, I work in a cookie dough factory and we plan on packing bulk cookie dough into 3lb plastic tubs. The plan is to send the packed product through a metal detector or x-ray to ensure the product is free from any foreign material. The issue is that we don't have the proper equipment to do this for this specific product. Obviously I would love to just go out and buy a new metal detector but I don't have that authority and I don't the my CEO would be ok with me spending all that money lol. Does any one have any suggestions on what we could use? or what I should be looking for? Thanks! 

 

Hi minighi,

 

Yr OP is ambiguous, eg "proper", "new". Do you mean you already have a MD but worry that it is insufficiently sensitive ? (this is a typical problem with large packages). What sensitivity (eg LOD) do you (or yr customer) require ?

 

If zero financial resources, the choice is presumably limited to organoleptic, eg Visual.


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Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:24 PM

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we have one and we have been told by our X-Ray technician that it is not sufficient for this bulk dough and that we should not be using it to test with. i am not sure what sensitivity we or this specific customer requires, but I can find out



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Posted 14 January 2021 - 08:11 PM

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we have one and we have been told by our X-Ray technician that it is not sufficient for this bulk dough and that we should not be using it to test with. i am not sure what sensitivity we or this specific customer requires, but I can find out

 

Perhaps ask yr technician for some measured sensitivity data to post here.


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Posted 14 January 2021 - 08:23 PM

To be clear YOU or your CUSTOMER do not decide sensitivity. It is determined by product AND packaging type. There are alot of variable in metal detector and/or X-ray and it is not a cut a dry thing to get right at the set up--simple to run once done however

 

If your tech is telling you the machine you have is insufficient-believe him

 

When procuring a new piece of detection they always ask alot of questions and this is why--the detector needs to be the correct size and type for each FG to ensure its actually functioning

 

Last place i was at would actually change the sensitivity settings if the MD starting acting up!!!!!!!  That is not a solution.  

 

Don't mean to rant on this but the real folks you should be asking are the technical reps for the manufacturers of these kinds of equipment--otherwise you're wasting your time


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Posted 15 January 2021 - 11:30 AM

To be clear YOU or your CUSTOMER do not decide sensitivity. It is determined by product AND packaging type. There are alot of variable in metal detector and/or X-ray and it is not a cut a dry thing to get right at the set up--simple to run once done however

 

If your tech is telling you the machine you have is insufficient-believe him

 

When procuring a new piece of detection they always ask alot of questions and this is why--the detector needs to be the correct size and type for each FG to ensure its actually functioning

 

Last place i was at would actually change the sensitivity settings if the MD starting acting up!!!!!!!  That is not a solution.  

 

Don't mean to rant on this but the real folks you should be asking are the technical reps for the manufacturers of these kinds of equipment--otherwise you're wasting your time

 

Hi Scampi,

 

And yet Canada has Regulatory limits ? :smile:


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Posted 15 January 2021 - 01:18 PM

Yep Charles we do---they would change the sensitivity so "smalls" wouldn't keep setting the machine off but would still reject finding at or above the regulatory size-----sigh I was only there 5 weeks and i knew on day 2 it wasn't going to work for me--I won't name the company but they are in the top 10 worlds largest food processing companies---i should have researched it more before i even took the job-turns out they are in legal hot water all of the time. Lesson learned

 

They helped solidify what I already believed------huge companies with deep pockets can buy themselves into compliance


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