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Posted 23 March 2021 - 08:27 PM

What are people's thoughts on using degreasers such as Formula 409 and Simple Green to clean indirect product contact surfaces such as production scales, walls, ceilings, etc.?  I found documentation that Simple Green is EPA approved and USDA approved for food manufacturing facilities, but it appears that is not the case for Formula 409.

 

 



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Posted 23 March 2021 - 08:35 PM

we've been in a number of plants that use simple green with great success.

 

as to 409, it is not recommended due to certain chemical properties.


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Posted 23 March 2021 - 09:06 PM

Thanks for the input.  That confirms what my thoughts were, especially on the Formula 409.  I had reviewed the SDS and it appears Formula 409 is an EPA registered pesticide.



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Posted 24 March 2021 - 12:02 PM

Simple Green also makes an organic approved version called Crystal simple green---works really well....inexpensive to boot


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Posted 25 March 2021 - 12:47 PM

We moved to Simple Green Crystal also. It works great and to comply with labeling and make it more cost effective, we buy it in 55 gallon barrels and dilute / refill the bottles ourselves. We just buy a case or two of Simple Green spray bottles and refill them until the label becomes illegible. That keeps us from having to generate GHS labels for secondary containers



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Posted 09 August 2022 - 04:36 PM

We moved to Simple Green Crystal also. It works great and to comply with labeling and make it more cost effective, we buy it in 55 gallon barrels and dilute / refill the bottles ourselves. We just buy a case or two of Simple Green spray bottles and refill them until the label becomes illegible. That keeps us from having to generate GHS labels for secondary containers

 

Does this require any special tracking/recording to ensure the correct ratio is met when you dilute? 



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Posted 10 August 2022 - 04:35 AM

What are people's thoughts on using degreasers such as Formula 409 and Simple Green to clean indirect product contact surfaces such as production scales, walls, ceilings, etc.?  I found documentation that Simple Green is EPA approved and USDA approved for food manufacturing facilities, but it appears that is not the case for Formula 409.

I note the above approvals however I nonetheless find this comment disturbing -

 

12.     Why aren't the ingredients listed on the label?

Simple Green is non-toxic. Therefore, the listing of ingredients on the label is not required by law. Simple Green's unique formula is protected under the US Trade Secrecy Act and has been extensively tested to verify the product's credentials. Simple Green complies with all current labeling requirements for ingredient disclosure on cleaning products. If you have an allergy, medical reason, or technical reason for wanting to know if Simple Green contains a particular item, please contact us at XXXX and we will help you as best we can.

https://www.motormad...formation_id=13

 

(the specific ingredients (bar fragrance) do in fact appear to be directly available from the manufacturer -

https://simplegreen....afer-choice.php

 

PS - IMEX scented cleaning products may have restricted applicability in food manufacturing facilities. (Maybe there is a non-scented version).

 

PPS - I found the relatively high level of Aluminium in the EPA's analysis of Simple Green rather curious -

https://www.epa.gov/...e/simple-greenr


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