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#1 Chadwick

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Posted 27 May 2021 - 05:49 PM

Good day to you all! Thank you for taking time to look at my post first and foremost. I know that IFSQN has the best answers for our industry so with that being said.... We are an Organic facility that has high counts of Coliform. What chemicals can we use to irradiate these bacteria? Currently we use a 3 part wash down and deep clean with a bleach dilution sanitizer. Thoughts? 



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Posted 27 May 2021 - 05:56 PM

Biodegradable chemicals - at least, as per Canadian Organic Regulation. I'm not familiar with US Approved Chemical list for organic production, but I guess it's common sense as "organic product" definition would be the same in any country.



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Posted 27 May 2021 - 05:59 PM

HI and welcome!

 

Coliform are not a particular bacteria, but rather an indicator of cleanliness, usually (but not always) e coli.

 

Is the coliform count high on surfaces or your products?

 

You cannot deep clean with bleach, that's not going to help you actually and may in fact be adding to your problem.

 

There are other approved sanitizers for organic production that you do not have to rinse. The issue with organic certification and using bleach, is that they require a full rinse after use and that defeats the purpose. Sanitizers are meant to be applied and left as they do not work immediately.

 

I would suggest to:
A) increase your cleaning frequency

B) follow proper handwashing procedures at all times

C) follow the proper sanitation procedure.......debris removal, rinse, foam, scrub where needed, rinse, INSPECT (repeat previous if needed) and then sanitize 


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Posted 27 May 2021 - 06:07 PM

Take a look at Ozonated Water.


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Posted 27 May 2021 - 06:30 PM

What kind of product do you manufacture? And when is the high count found (after cleaning and sanitizing, during production, etc)? 



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Posted 27 May 2021 - 06:34 PM

Good Day to you all!

 

Thank you for taking time to look at my post first and foremost. I know that IFSQN has the best answers for our industry so with that being said....

 

We are an Organic facility that has high counts of Coliform. What chemicals can we use to irradiate these bacteria? Currently we use a 3 part wash down and deep clean with a bleach dilution sanitizer. 

 

Thoughts? 

 

I assume you refer to food contact surfaces.

 

See Post 5.

 

What do you quantitatively mean by "high count " ?

 

How about APC ?


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Posted 27 May 2021 - 06:45 PM

My facility uses an alcohol based sanitizer that is Organic-Approved, see link below.

 

http://www.bestsanit...rface-sanitizer



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Posted 28 May 2021 - 03:56 AM

My facility uses an alcohol based sanitizer that is Organic-Approved, see link below.

 

http://www.bestsanit...rface-sanitizer

 

Hi Spidey,

 

I'm curious what the other (EPA approved) 30% is ? And where it disappears to  ?


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Posted 03 June 2021 - 01:46 PM

We have used peracetic acid as a sanitizer for organic processing.  No rinse required.


Edited by sqflady, 03 June 2021 - 01:46 PM.


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Posted 03 June 2021 - 02:42 PM

General FYI...any sanitizer you look to use work with your chemical supplier and make sure they understand you are organic certified and wish to use a sanitizer which does not require a fresh water rinse.  Not all peracetic acid sanitizers are created equal.

 

For example, Vortexx peracetic acid based sanitizer from Ecolab is not organic compliant due to other components.  However, their Synergex peracetic acid based sanitizer is organic compliant.






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