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[Ashfaq Hussain]

HI everyone, there is a factory that produces producing bakery Buns for the whole market in Pakistan. We are going to Halal certification along with supplier quality management system (it is combination of BRC, FSSC 22000, IFS & SQF) Your valuable input has been requested as below queries ...

 

1- In the HACCP manual, we can describe/ address the Halal Hazard (H)?

2- What method will be used for the hazard identification and risk assessment and decision tree..

3- And we are a little bit confused, OPRP and CCP identification in RAW material and process steps.  

 

 As per attached my sheet please guide, 

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of > 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the oPRP’s”

 

- For process steps frequently monetizing, and on process verification QA/QC on a daily basis.

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of < 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the HACCP plan”

 

 

Regards,

Ashfaq Hussain

 

 

[Charles.C]

 

HI everyone, there is a factory that produces producing bakery Buns for the whole market in Pakistan. We are going to Halal certification along with supplier quality management system (it is combination of BRC, FSSC 22000, IFS & SQF) Your valuable input has been requested as below queries ...

 

1- In the HACCP manual, we can describe/ address the Halal Hazard (H)?

2- What method will be used for the hazard identification and risk assessment and decision tree..

3- And we are a little bit confused, OPRP and CCP identification in RAW material and process steps.  

 

 As per attached my sheet please guide, 

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of > 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the oPRP’s”

 

- For process steps frequently monetizing, and on process verification QA/QC on a daily basis.

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of < 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the HACCP plan”

 

 

Regards,

Ashfaq Hussain

 

 

 Hi Ashfaq Hussain,

 

It sounds like you are somewhat unfamiliar with HACCP and Food Safety.

 

I know nothing about Halal Certification although I anticipate that HACCP is used to assure the Food Safety element. Other posters on this Forum will no doubt be better able to advise.

 

The only FS/HACCP Standards afaik which use OPRP are FSSC22000 (GFSI recognised) and iso22000 (not recognised by GFSI)

[Ashfaq Hussain]

Hi Charles.C,

 

 

 

Thank you for your response,

 

 

 

The understanding is clear about HALAL certification.

 

 

 

2nd,,, i would like to share that i have mention about Supplier Quality Management System Audit Check List which have combination of difference global standards as mention above.

 

 

 

 

 As per attached my sheet please guide, Methodology for Determination of Hazard Control Measures, CCP’s and oPRP’s.

 

 

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of > 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the oPRP’s”

 

 

 

- For process steps frequently monetizing, and on process verification QA/QC on a daily basis.

 

 

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of < 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the HACCP plan”

 

 

Attached Files

•  Methodology for Determination of Hazard Control Measures, CCP’s and oPRP’s..doc   279.5KB   113 downloads

[Charles.C]

 

Hi Charles.C,

 

Thank you for your response,

 

The understanding is clear about HALAL certification.

 

2nd,,, i would like to share that i have mention about Supplier Quality Management System Audit Check List which have combination of difference global standards as mention above.

 

 As per attached my sheet please guide, Methodology for Determination of Hazard Control Measures, CCP’s and oPRP’s.

 

 

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of > 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the oPRP’s”

 

- For process steps frequently monetizing, and on process verification QA/QC on a daily basis.

 

*** Which type documents are required to “Values of < 14 rating of effectiveness will be controlled by the HACCP plan”

 

 

Hi Ashfaq Hussain,

 

Thks for attachment.

 

I think yr (HACCP) query is related  to my previous Post/thread here -

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...rp/#entry133687

 

I anticipate CCP/OPRP methodology in yr attachment is appropriate to  iso-haccp as utilised in iso22000/fsssc22000.

 

Pls study the Excel file as contained in sub-link within the above linked Post.

 

Pls refer to Sheets 1 and 4 of the Excel file.

 

I anticipate that your "14" is equivalent to my "18" (see Columns O-X of Excel sheet 1) (Note that arrow heads are reversed in your scheme, reason unknown)

 

The Number "18" is arbitrary (eg intuitively risk-based) and I anticipate that your "14" has been analogously chosen.

 

Note that the Excel file referred above was based on ISO22000:2005. This version has now been superceded by iso22000:2018

 

The CCP/OPRP decision methodology in above Excel would now be replaced by an approach such as the one attached in this Post -

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...18/#entry138153

 

Hope the above makes sense in respect to Queries (2,3) of yr OP.

[Ashfaq Hussain]

Hi Charles.C,

 

Thank you, I have go through your shred excel file (see Columns O-X of Excel sheet 1), it is ok but didn't see HACCP PLAN and OPRP further steps. these steps are already shred in my early file."  Methodology for Determination of Hazard Control Measures, CCP’s and oPRP’s..doc -  Step # 3 ".

 

Above your shred line, file is v informative and good. The concern is still stand that after calculation of a-g Control Measure Assessment Data and found HACCP Plan-18-21 & OPRP <18.

 

***what next step is required for HACCP     ....

and 

***what next step is required for OPRP      ....

 

looking for hear from you.

[Charles.C]

 

Hi Charles.C,

 

Thank you, I have go through your shred excel file (see Columns O-X of Excel sheet 1), it is ok but didn't see HACCP PLAN and OPRP further steps. these steps are already shred in my early file."  Methodology for Determination of Hazard Control Measures, CCP’s and oPRP’s..doc -  Step # 3 ".

 

Above your shred line, file is v informative and good. The concern is still stand that after calculation of a-g Control Measure Assessment Data and found HACCP Plan-18-21 & OPRP <18.

 

***what next step is required for HACCP     ....

and 

***what next step is required for OPRP      ....

 

looking for hear from you.

 

 

Hi Ashfaq Hussain,

 

The excel file is related to fssc22000.

 

Regret that I don't personally use this Standard so do not have any additional documentation. The objective of the Excel was to demonstrate the implementation of a response to the haccp portion of the Standard.

 

The haccp "Plan" and following steps need to be correlated with the appropriate Clauses in the current version of the Standard. The (updated) Excel file should cover Clauses 8.5.2.4.(1 and 2) so responding to Clause 8.5.3 et seq is the next logical chain.

Edited by Charles.C, 07 June 2021 - 03:54 PM.
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[Ashfaq Hussain]

Thank you Charles.C,

 

Looking for exert opinions on it.

 

If follow the Risk assessment and decision tree questions  

 

For CCP: Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4

should  be Y/Y/- / -  OR   Y/N/Y/N

 

What about OPRP   ....

 

Is this classifies on the risk matrix ?