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Posted 07 July 2021 - 03:56 PM

Hello all, could you help me about this question? Can substitute SQF practitioner perform the internal audit? Thanks!

 

 



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 04:06 PM

Is it a back up SQF Practitioner, with the same training as the main SQF Practitioner?



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 04:35 PM

Hi TimG,

 

Yes, same training (+ internal audit training). The individual used to conduct the internal audit in previous years and is the only person eligible for becoming substitute SQF practitioner. 



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 05:29 PM

yes if the back up practitioner has  internal auditing training, theycan do this.  

 

Anyone properly trained in internal auditing can conduct an internal audit and meet the SQF requirement. 



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 06:32 PM

Then they absolutely can conduct the audit, and it's good practice to have them do so from time to time to maintain awareness and spread out duties.



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 06:40 PM

....2.5.4.2 Staff conducting internal audits shall be trained and competent in internal audit
procedures. Where practical, staff conducting internal audits shall be independent of
the function being audited.

 

Is substitute SQF practitioner independent from food safety program?
 


Edited by BassanoFarms, 07 July 2021 - 06:41 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2021 - 07:38 PM

Not really, but a key phrase is 'Where practical'. Wording like that implies it's a best practice, but might not work in every facility.

I've always taken the intent in this regard is to avoid having someone like the maintenance manager audit PM's/calibration sheets. What you are trying to avoid is a conflict of interest that could cause blatant food safety issues to go unaddressed.

 

Is it practical for you to have a cross-functional multi-faceted group of auditors?  I'm sure Kraft, Amazon foods, probably PepsiCo has them. 



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 07:57 PM

Not really, but a key phrase is 'Where practical'. Wording like that implies it's a best practice, but might not work in every facility.

I've always taken the intent in this regard is to avoid having someone like the maintenance manager audit PM's/calibration sheets. What you are trying to avoid is a conflict of interest that could cause blatant food safety issues to go unaddressed.

 

Is it practical for you to have a cross-functional multi-faceted group of auditors?  I'm sure Kraft, Amazon foods, probably PepsiCo has them. 

Thanks TimG. A small facility here and one person has the internal auditor qualifications. Same person is a member of HACCP team. I believe " where practical" can help. However, shouldn't a standard be more clear about this specific matter? 



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Posted 07 July 2021 - 10:19 PM

Thanks TimG. A small facility here and one person has the internal auditor qualifications. Same person is a member of HACCP team. I believe " where practical" can help. However, shouldn't a standard be more clear about this specific matter? 

 

SQF are a business enterprise. Flexibility apparently supercedes "Principles" in this case.


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Posted 08 July 2021 - 02:53 PM

Thanks TimG. A small facility here and one person has the internal auditor qualifications. Same person is a member of HACCP team. I believe " where practical" can help. However, shouldn't a standard be more clear about this specific matter? 

 

One thing I got in the habit of is checking the SQF guidance documents whenever the code wasn't crystal clear. They break down by the actual code, so you should be able to punch in 2.5.4.2 and get some idea of what the auditor will be looking for to meet the code.



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