17 replies to this topic

[Miss Frankie]

We process imitation crab and want to have at least 9g of protein per serving.  In order to do that, or serving size needs to be 95g, rather than the "suggested" 85g.

Can we make our serving size different than recommended?

 

Thanks!

[kingstudruler1]

I think you are stuck with 85 grams.  I dont know of a way around that.  

[Setanta]

It's true, at least in the US, the serving size is largely dependent on USDA/FDA

[Miss Frankie]

I think you are stuck with 85 grams.  I dont know of a way around that.  

That's what's confusing.  We researched similar products and found other serving sizes to be anywhere from 80-98 grams. 
I just can't find a regulation stating it MUST be 85 grams, only "suggested".

[olenazh]

Interesting: one of our US/Canada-market customers (we make yogurts for them) has their own serving size on the cup label. Instead of suggested 175 g, they have 125 g. They've been on the market for years, quite a big company.

[Scampi]

Now it says "typical" serving size

https://www.fda.gov/...ion-facts-label

 

Source: ‘‘Methodology used to Determine Whether to Propose to Update, Modify, or Establish the Reference Amounts Customarily Consumed (RACCs) per Eating Occasion,’’ February 11, 2014.

[Miss Frankie]

I did find a formula.

Food Labeling SECG on Serving Size of Foods (fda.gov)

 

Now to figure out how to determine the percentage of container to fit our needs.

[Setanta]

I did find a formula.
Food Labeling SECG on Serving Size of Foods (fda.gov)
 
Now to figure out how to determine the percentage of container to fit our needs.

Thank you that could prove helpful for some customer comments I have had recently, also.

[kingstudruler1]

That's what's confusing.  We researched similar products and found other serving sizes to be anywhere from 80-98 grams. 
I just can't find a regulation stating it MUST be 85 grams, only "suggested".

 

I guess i've always used the link below.     I've never really dug into trying to use something other than whats on the table.   There might be a way to do it,   

 

https://www.accessda...h.cfm?fr=101.12

[kingstudruler1]

Interesting: one of our US/Canada-market customers (we make yogurts for them) has their own serving size on the cup label. Instead of suggested 175 g, they have 125 g. They've been on the market for years, quite a big company.

In the USA, i thought yogurt was 170 grams.  Now you guys got me questioning my thinking.   lol.   

 

Have you ever asked them why?  

[olenazh]

In the USA, i thought yogurt was 170 grams.  Now you guys got me questioning my thinking.   lol.   

 

Have you ever asked them why?  

That's what I thought too, like one "common" serving size for all yogurts for consumers to avoid confusions (exceptions, I guess, small size cups where nutritions are per 1 container). I've never actually asked that customer why they decided to go for 125 g. SPOILER: you could see their yogurts at Costco (Greek Style yogurt honey flavour, 650 g)

[kingstudruler1]

That's what I thought too, like one "common" serving size for all yogurts for consumers to avoid confusions (exceptions, I guess, small size cups where nutritions are per 1 container). I've never actually asked that customer why they decided to go for 125 g. SPOILER: you could see their yogurts at Costco (Greek Style yogurt honey flavour, 650 g)

dammit olenazh, now I will waste my entire day scouring internet labels trying to find it!

 

With is being so far off or normal, I think they made a mistake.  almost like they used a less that a serving container info for a larger container.  They may (or maybe not) appreciate you asking.  If nothing else you just might appear diligent, caring, and informed.   

[olenazh]

dammit olenazh, now I will waste my entire day scouring internet labels trying to find it!

 

With is being so far off or normal, I think they made a mistake.  almost like they used a less that a serving container info for a larger container.  They may (or maybe not) appreciate you asking.  If nothing else you just might appear diligent, caring, and informed.   

Oh, shoot! I've just checked their most recent labels - and here it is: serving size 175 g. Sorry for misinforming! 

[kingstudruler1]

Oh, shoot! I've just checked their most recent labels - and here it is: serving size 175 g. Sorry for misinforming! 

no worries,  ive relayed some bad info to. 

[Marocopanda]

Hello,

 

can anyone please share a link to a list of current US serving sizes depending on product?

[Miss Frankie]

Hello,

 

can anyone please share a link to a list of current US serving sizes depending on product?

 

Serving Size Updates on the New Nutrition Facts Label (fda.gov)

 

 

There are probably others, but this in the first one I found this morning.]

hmm, that should be a link, not sure why it isn't working.

Edited by Miss Frankie, 21 March 2022 - 03:52 PM.

[Emily Xu]

It should be okay if having reasonable explanation why choosing 98g instead of RACC, i.e. product size .

According to FDA  <A FOOD LABELING GUIDE for food industry> L68 as below:

L68:Is it necessary to reformulate the size of a product such as cookies so that the serving size weighs exactly theRACC (i.e., 30g)?

Answer: It is not necessary to adjust the size of your cookies to fit the RACC. For example, if four cookies weigh 28 grams (and five cookies weigh 35 grams), declare the number of cookies nearest the RACC and label with the exact weight of that number of cookies for the serving size: “Serving size 4 cookies (28g)” or “4 cookies (28g/1 oz).”21CFR 101.12(b)

[kingstudruler1]

 

It should be okay if having reasonable explanation why choosing 98g instead of RACC, i.e. product size .

According to FDA  <A FOOD LABELING GUIDE for food industry> L68 as below:

L68:Is it necessary to reformulate the size of a product such as cookies so that the serving size weighs exactly theRACC (i.e., 30g)?

Answer: It is not necessary to adjust the size of your cookies to fit the RACC. For example, if four cookies weigh 28 grams (and five cookies weigh 35 grams), declare the number of cookies nearest the RACC and label with the exact weight of that number of cookies for the serving size: “Serving size 4 cookies (28g)” or “4 cookies (28g/1 oz).”21CFR 101.12(b)

 

 

 

There are some exceptions to account for items like this.   There are legitimate reasons for altering the serving size such as this.   However, I don't think adjusting the serving size to meet a certain desired nutrient value falls into that category.    if that is the case a butter manufacture could  cut their serving size in half to make it look like there had  less fat than others.   Its meant to give the consumer a good idea of the nutrients that are actually consumed and to keep the playing field level.