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[Utama]

Allergen Management Grinding Process on the same area and at the same time (but on different machine)

 

Hello friends, I hope you are all doing well...

 

I want to ask how to monitor if you have two grinding allergen materials process in the same room and at the same time, but offcourse using a different machine...

for example the material are peanuts and cheese.

 

Kindly you help, please

Thanks

[kfromNE]

Airborne particles from the grinding process is a big concern if the process isn't enclosed. It it isn't - you need to make sure there is enough separation through allergen testing.

Employees working. They need to be separate employees. If this can't be done - they need to change their smock, gloves, etc to go from one area to the next. Also separate equipment like containers, buckets, carts, etc. Watch the supervisors and management too/employees who monitor multiple areas.

[RyH]

Doing anything in a room with peanuts in any form is risky as hell. 

I'd be inclined to have the peanut line completely segregated with it's own dedicated equipment (Add separating walls, dedicated cleaning equipment etc).
As KfromNE says above, you need to control the movements of staff to ensure your allergen handling staff don't contaminate other areas of the business.
While you have peanut grinding in the same room as cheese I would  be swabbing the crap out of the cheese line constantly.
If you can't segregate the line correctly then you may need to look at how production planning in this area so that the two never happen without a full clean down in between.

Ultimately, I wouldn't dream of handling peanuts anywhere except a dedicated peanut facility.
Your HACCP must be bullet proof if you're able to produce safely. Personally, I can't see how it's possible so I'm keen to see how you've managed this.


 

[Scampi]

Wouldn't touch this idea with a ten foot pole

 

How much peanut does it take to cause an allergic reaction?

 

 

Photo/Colleen Kelley/UC Creative + Brand. The dose calculated to elicit an allergic reaction in 1% of patients with peanut allergies was 0.052 milligrams of peanut protein, about the weight of a single grain of salt, says Haber

[jfrey123]

Based on what you've stated, I couldn't justify grinding peanuts in the same room.  I started in a spice grinding facility, and we justified multiple production lines in one large room with proper dust collection and sufficient open distance between them.  But we performed air sampling to prove this was sufficient, along with showing all product we processed was non-allergen and otherwise low risk.

 

At a minimum, I'd say you'd need to build some sort of partition between your cheese and peanut lines, processing and packaging would need to be performed wholly in those areas to avoid cross-contamination of in-process materials.  Air collection in those areas would need to be considered to prevent leakage out of that partition.  You'd also have to consider updating GMP's to ensure employees don't bring contamination from one partition to another, and design your people and product flows accordingly.

 

It can be done, but it will take a lot of careful (and expensive) evaluation to pass muster through your regulatory and certification bodies.

[Setanta]

Wouldn't touch this idea with a ten foot pole
 


How much peanut does it take to cause an allergic reaction?


Photo/Colleen Kelley/UC Creative + Brand. The dose calculated to elicit an allergic reaction in 1% of patients with peanut allergies was 0.052 milligrams of peanut protein, about the weight of a single grain of salt, says Haber

Nope! I don't know how I would ever be comfortable with that.

Edited by Setanta, 29 March 2023 - 05:59 PM.

[SHQuality]

I've worked in a facility that processed peanuts, they did it at the end of the week, right before intense deep cleaning followed by intensive swabbing.

The lines would not be released without the tests coming back negative.

 

Using both lines simultaneously without a partition in place is not desirable.

Edited by SHQuality, 31 March 2023 - 06:38 AM.

[Utama]

Hello All...

 

 

Thank you very much for your guy's advice...

I think we will need a design and monitoring plan about this issue

 

Best regards