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Posted 24 April 2008 - 01:49 PM

Just wondered if anyone had a generic positive release form I could use and adapt for vegetables?



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Posted 25 April 2008 - 02:13 PM

Just wondered if anyone had a generic positive release form I could use and adapt for vegetables?

Anyone got a form they can share with Daz? Even if not relevant it could be a basis for discussion, so that Daz might be able to develop one for his process.

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 07:27 PM

BUMP anyone?


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Posted 28 April 2008 - 03:10 PM

I don't but I can explain how positive release was used in a business I have worked in. What we did was list all CCPs and legal steps (e.g. weight control) in the process and a person of appropriate seniority who did not run that shift (in practice the shift manager from the next shift) checked the paperwork against each stage and if all was in specification, it was released. It does ensure critical paperwork is reviewed prior to release so if you can do it, I think it's a great system.

I assume that's what you mean? In which case you just need a simple table.

(In chilled food though some people say 'positive release' and mean 'releasing on the basis of microbiological results' which is a different thing entirely.)



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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:32 AM

I don't but I can explain how positive release was used in a business I have worked in. What we did was list all CCPs and legal steps (e.g. weight control) in the process and a person of appropriate seniority who did not run that shift (in practice the shift manager from the next shift) checked the paperwork against each stage and if all was in specification, it was released. It does ensure critical paperwork is reviewed prior to release so if you can do it, I think it's a great system.

I assume that's what you mean? In which case you just need a simple table.

(In chilled food though some people say 'positive release' and mean 'releasing on the basis of microbiological results' which is a different thing entirely.)

Sounds logical GMO, good idea. On the matrix I guess you would list target values, tolerances and actual measurements?

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 06:37 AM

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I've been offline.

Well it depends upon your CCPs / legal requirements but it's better always to have someone write a result rather than tick a box (although for some steps it might be unavoidable) so you could have:

Temperature of finished product (target 2 - 5 oC)
Metal detection checks all completed?
Date code as recorded on pack (record full code as written and cut out and stick a copy onto the form)
Average weight of batch (target 350g - 385g)

etc. Hope that's helpful



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Posted 15 May 2008 - 07:19 AM

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I've been offline.

Well it depends upon your CCPs / legal requirements but it's better always to have someone write a result rather than tick a box (although for some steps it might be unavoidable) so you could have:

Temperature of finished product (target 2 - 5 oC)
Metal detection checks all completed?
Date code as recorded on pack (record full code as written and cut out and stick a copy onto the form)
Average weight of batch (target 350g - 385g)

etc. Hope that's helpful

Thanks for the example GMO, it is helpful.

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 09:35 PM

Dear Simon,

I agree with GMO's ideas however I think positive release usually takes longer than negative. An example of the latter might be that the documentation for any QA blocked product is automatically copied to the shipment supervisory person ( or production manager if responsible) together with a chronologically updated list of blocked product / date codes etc. The SSP is then authorised to assume that any product which is not on this list is ok to ship.

Naturally auditors prefer the positive style. I hv used the negative variety and when asked the reason by an auditor stated that it was a personal preference. I watched this guy carefully write down " Negative release adopted due to personality". No NC resulted, not that time anyway. :biggrin:

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 08:25 PM

I agree with GMO's ideas however I think positive release usually takes longer than negative. An example of the latter might be that the documentation for any QA blocked product is automatically copied to the shipment supervisory person ( or production manager if responsible) together with a chronologically updated list of blocked product / date codes etc. The SSP is then authorised to assume that any product which is not on this list is ok to ship.

Same result, as if batch is not on the blocked list it must have received the thumbs up. :thumbup: Is that right?

Naturally auditors prefer the positive style. I hv used the negative variety and when asked the reason by an auditor stated that it was a personal preference. I watched this guy carefully write down " Negative release adopted due to personality". No NC resulted, not that time anyway. :biggrin:

Sounds more like a psychiatrist than an auditor. Very funny. :lol:

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