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#1 hygienic

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:12 AM

Hi;



Here is a question regarding the pests as they are forigen objetcs , What we should determine the Pests found in the food (Cockroaches , flies,etc...

Is it physical contamination or microbiological contamination?


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#2 GMO

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 01:25 PM

You're finding cockroaches and flies in food? :helpplease:

IMO you should consider them as physical and micobiological hazards for your HACCP plan but if you did have one sent back claiming it was found in some food, it should be considered as a physical contaminant (as that hazard has been proven), if you had an associated illness complaint then it should be recorded as both physical and microbiological.



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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:32 PM

Pests are physical hazards, but always related to microbiological hazards



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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:55 AM

Right, Pests are always regarded as foreign objects but are related with microbiological diseases or outbreaks.

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#5 Ian R

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:34 AM

I agree with the last email
The 'body' is a foreign matter but the micro contamination from the pest would be a micro matter.

If the process would eliminate the micro through cooking etc then you would be left with just the body issue!

good luck!

Hi;
Here is a question regarding the pests as they are forigen objetcs , What we should determine the Pests found in the food (Cockroaches , flies,etc...

Is it physical contamination or microbiological contamination?


Regards

Hygienic



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Posted 23 November 2011 - 11:51 AM

Good Morning,

I would also agree with the comments above.

Pests, i.e. flies and cockroaches are physical foreign bodies (as you can see them), however are also microbiological hazards, due to the associated pathogenic risks associated with them.

Thanks


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#7 Mahmood Reza

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 11:08 PM

Hi;



Here is a question regarding the pests as they are forigen objetcs , What we should determine the Pests found in the food (Cockroaches , flies,etc...

Is it physical contamination or microbiological contamination?


Regards

Hygienic


Edited by Charles.C, 24 November 2011 - 01:55 AM.
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#8 Simao Monteiro

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:57 PM

Pests are physical contamination and the cause of Biological contamination. Codex refers biological, not microbiological...

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 10:14 PM

This reminds me of an example given to us during GMP training: What kind of contamination would hair be? It could be:

  • physical (of course)
  • microbiologic (if it wasn´t pasteurized or somehow heat treated along with the product)
  • chemical (if it had hair spray, gel or other hair care products on it).
The point is, rather than dealing with the minutiae of trying to figure out what kind of contamination an insect is, make sure you have a good pest control program in place to avoid any chance of this happening.



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Posted 12 January 2012 - 09:18 PM

This reminds me of an example given to us during GMP training: What kind of contamination would hair be? It could be:

  • physical (of course)
  • microbiologic (if it wasn´t pasteurized or somehow heat treated along with the product)
  • chemical (if it had hair spray, gel or other hair care products on it).
The point is, rather than dealing with the minutiae of trying to figure out what kind of contamination an insect is, make sure you have a good pest control program in place to avoid any chance of this happening.
If we had a post of the day award... :king:

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Simon

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#11 tsmith7858

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 09:40 PM

If we had a post of the day award... :king:

Regards,
Simon



I'll second that, well said MRios!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 05:28 PM

Now you´re making me blush! Hahaha!:oops:






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