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Poll: Food Safety Management Scenarios (15 member(s) have cast votes)

Which scenario do you prefer?

  1. Scenario A – Sporadic Calm (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  2. Scenario B – Measurable Progress (14 votes [93.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 93.33%

Which scenario do you think best describes the current food safety management scene worldwide?

  1. Scenario A – Sporadic Calm (7 votes [46.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.67%

  2. Scenario B – Measurable Progress (8 votes [53.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.33%

Owners, managers and workers in organizations involved in food safety, which scenario best describes your organization’s current approach?

  1. Scenario A – Sporadic Calm (10 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Scenario B – Measurable Progress (5 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:22 PM

Food safety management worldwide can be depicted with one of two scenarios: It is either that of intermittent calm and commotion or it is of measurable progress in the achievement of a sustained calm.



Scenario A – Sporadic Calm

Adopted strategies and practices for ensuring food safety are successful for a period. This is the period of calm. Sooner or later, the adopted strategies and practices fail and commotion arises with the attending frenzy of dealing with outbreaks of food-borne illness.



Scenario B – Measurable Progress

Commotion exists amidst an incrementally progressive calm that is measureable. Steady measurable progress is made without relinquishing conquered territories. This ensures the continuous increase of attained calm while commotion dwindles.


Edited by gcse-fhp, 26 November 2011 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:31 AM

Sorry, English is my first language and I know it's early but can you put that into shorter words? My brain is befuddled this morning! :helpplease:


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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:29 PM

Food safety management worldwide can be depicted with one of two scenarios: It is either that of intermittent calm and commotion or it is of measurable progress in the achievement of a sustained calm.



Scenario A – Sporadic Calm

Adopted strategies and practices for ensuring food safety are successful for a period. This is the period of calm. Sooner or later, the adopted strategies and practices fail and commotion arises with the attending frenzy of dealing with outbreaks of food-borne illness.



Scenario B – Measurable Progress

Commotion exists amidst an incrementally progressive calm that is measureable. Steady measurable progress is made without relinquishing conquered territories. This ensures the continuous increase of attained calm while commotion dwindles.


English is not my first language, and I could not understand a bit of your both scenarios.

Please bear with us the foreigners and try to be more understandable

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:17 PM

I am from the planet Verbose and it makes perfect sense to me.

No seriously; to the original poster if you want a god response please try to keep it simple.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:10 AM

Let’s try this:

Food safety management anywhere in the world today is done in one of two ways: It is either done with never having any certainty of success, or it is done with guaranteed progress that can be measured.

Scenario A – Sporadic Calm (uncertainty of success}

Food safety management strategies and practices are successful for a period. Soon, the strategies and practices fail and there is commotion with people running around to deal with food safety issues.

Scenario B – Measurable Progress (guaranteed progress that can be measured)

Food safety issues are not completely eradicated all at once. However, a steady progress that can be measured is made without falling back. This means having a food safety management system that guarantees a steady reduction in the number of food safety issues.

Please let me know if this is still not clear. . . . and please cast your vote if you have not already done so.

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Edited by gcse-fhp, 08 December 2011 - 05:13 AM.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:25 PM

Dear gcse,

No wish to hijack yr thread but I suspect the words "success", "progress" are rather undefined.

As far as my own comprehensible clarity is concerned, I think a specific practical (simple) example / case to illustrate yr intended comparison would help.

For example, it "almost" looks to me like you are comparing (something like) the application of "blanket" Zero Tolerance Standards for pathogens like E.coli O157 (?) with the Pathogen Reduction Project for Meat in USA ? (:dunno: )
(The "success/progress" of both approaches above is I believe still under "debate" :smile: )

My apologies if I completely misunderstood.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:12 PM

Good point, Charles C.

I am not sure if these are the kinds of examples that you mean but here are some:

Measurable progress (guaranteed progress that can be measured) for the world, a country or a company is when cases of food borne illness or food safety issues grow lower and lower say from the fictitious numbers of 10,000,000 to 100,000 to 10,000 to 1,000 per year and this guaranteed downward trend continues steadily without upward spikes as time passes.

Sporadic Calm (or uncertainty of success) is when the numbers are all over the place: 10,000,000 one year, 60, 000 another year, 20,000,000 another year, 10 in one year and 75,000 the next in an up, down, up down roller coaster fashion without any measurable pattern or guarantee as to the direction the numbers of food borne illness cases or food safety issues will take from year to year.

Does this change your vote if you have already voted? I think you should be able to vote again.

Thanks,
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Edited by gcse-fhp, 09 December 2011 - 11:20 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

Dear gcse,

Thks for reply.

There does seem to be a Sporadic Calm occurring.

But it is not food safety related. Sorry.

Rgds / Charles.C

PS - A robot OP ? :clap: :clap:


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Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:57 AM

- A robot OP ?


Dear Charles C.,

I must confess that I do not understand what you mean by your PS. Please explain.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 04:00 PM

Dear Charles C.,

I must confess that I do not understand what you mean by your PS. Please explain.

Thanks,

gcse-fhp

P.S. means 'Post Script' which means 'After writing'.

It is usually placed at the end of a letter or email by the author when he/she remembers an additional thing to say.


p.s. I find the poll restrictive on question two as it depends if you are talking about the world or more specific region, country, industry etc.

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