Jump to content

  • Quick Navigation
Photo
- - - - -

Microbial standard for CIP/COP (Swab testing)


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 iojapp257

iojapp257

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 2 posts
  • 0 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Thailand
    Thailand

Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:59 AM

Hi everyone,

 

I was concerning about microbial standard for CIP/COP system by swab test (dairy plant). We found some problem that we swabbed filler machine after CIP/COP processing but we don't have standard limit for risk assessment. Could you recommend international or reference standard for these ?  Help me plsssss ...  >>> ^_^

 

 Many thanks,

Pimpat

 

 

 



#2 Charles.C

Charles.C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Moderator
  • 18,042 posts
  • 5052 thanks
1,071
Excellent

  • Earth
    Earth
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:SF
    TV
    Movies

Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:05 AM

Hi everyone,

 

I was concerning about microbial standard for CIP/COP system by swab test (dairy plant). We found some problem that we swabbed filler machine after CIP/COP processing but we don't have standard limit for risk assessment. Could you recommend international or reference standard for these ?  Help me plsssss ...  >>> ^_^

 

 Many thanks,

Pimpat

 

Dear iojapp,

 

AFAIK there are no consensus international micro. swab standards although some countries do have their own legislatory limits or guidelines (unknown for yr case).

 

Are you referring to APC counts or ? Actual result ?

 

This data compilation may be of some help –  

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...ces/#entry60958

 

Rgds / Charles.C

 

(added) PS - I would predict that for yr product / process / stage (ie post pasteurisation), any limit / guideline   will be at the lower /lowest end of the typical ranges mentioned in above tables.  :smile:


Edited by Charles.C, 05 July 2013 - 06:26 AM.
added text

Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


Thanked by 1 Member:

#3 iojapp257

iojapp257

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 2 posts
  • 0 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Thailand
    Thailand

Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:36 AM

Dear iojapp,

 

AFAIK there are no consensus international micro. swab standards although some countries do have their own legislatory limits or guidelines (unknown for yr case).

 

Are you referring to APC counts or ? Actual result ?

 

This data compilation may be of some help –  

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...ces/#entry60958

 

Rgds / Charles.C

Dear Charles.C

 

Thank you for your information. So I concern about APC, Coliform/E.coli, Y&M and Staph. But your information is great !!!!



#4 cazyncymru

cazyncymru

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • Banned
  • 1,604 posts
  • 340 thanks
126
Excellent

  • Earth
    Earth
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:26 AM

As a dairy person, I'd be looking for <10 TVC, <10 Entros and if over 10 entro's doing e coli.

I wouldn't swab for Y&M or Staphs, but I might do for Listeria.

 

Hope this helps

 

Caz x



#5 Tony-C

Tony-C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • 3,374 posts
  • 1008 thanks
273
Excellent

  • United Kingdom
    United Kingdom
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Koh Samui
  • Interests:My main interests are sports particularly football, pool, scuba diving, skiing and ten pin bowling.

Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

As a dairy person, I'd be looking for <10 TVC, <10 Entros and if over 10 entro's doing e coli.

I wouldn't swab for Y&M or Staphs, but I might do for Listeria.

 

Hope this helps

 

Caz x

 

Y&M & Staphs useful if manufacturing fermented dairy products.

 

Regards,

 

Tony






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users