What happens if you get a major NC against a fundamental requirement?

Question

What happens if you get a major NC against a fundamental requirement?

Started by ahmet, Jul 03 2014 09:26 AM

#1 ahmet

Grade - AIFSQN

IFSQN Associate
47 posts
0 thanks

0
Neutral

Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:26 AM

All

What happens if you identify a major non-conformance against a fundamental standard?

Ahmet Saral

thanks

Back to top

Back to BRCGS - Food Safety

Nirbhay Pampaniya · Answer 1

#2 Nirbhay Pampaniya

Grade - Active

IFSQN Associate
11 posts
1 thanks

2
Neutral

India
Gender:Male

Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:38 AM

Then your audit will result in non-certification.

fgjuadi likes this

Back to top

Setanta · Answer 2

#3 Setanta

Grade - FIFSQN

IFSQN Fellow
1,615 posts
371 thanks

391
Excellent

United States
Gender:Female
Interests:Reading: historical fiction, fantasy, Sci-Fi
Movies
Gardening
Birding

Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:21 PM

It isn't clear to me if this something discovered in an audit situation, or something you've uncovered as a result of internal audits. You do need to repair the item and remedy the situation before you move on. You may need to get re-certified. I think we'd need more information to be in the best position to help.

Setanta

Edited by Setanta, 03 July 2014 - 03:41 PM.

-Setanta

Back to top

Snookie · Answer 3

#4 Snookie

Grade - FIFSQN

IFSQN Fellow
1,625 posts
267 thanks

174
Excellent

United States
Gender:Female

Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:33 PM

Setanta is right we can be more helpful if you provide more information.

Live Long & Prosper

Back to top

trubertq · Answer 4

#5 trubertq

Grade - PIFSQN

IFSQN Principal
658 posts
281 thanks

137
Excellent

Ireland
Gender:Female
Location:Donegal

Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:59 PM

A non-conformance against a fundamental during a certification or re-certification audit can result in the audit being abandoned... show stopper in other words.

See page 66 of the standard.

cazyncymru likes this

I'm entitled to my opinion, even a stopped clock is right twice a day

Back to top

Shyguy77 · Answer 5

#6 Shyguy77

Grade - MIFSQN

IFSQN Member
120 posts
62 thanks

12
Good

United States
Gender:Male

Posted 03 July 2014 - 07:44 PM

The exact action probably depends on the audit itself and the certifying body, but in most GFSI cases you will not be granted certification and will need to be re-audited when the issue(s) have been corrected. It could also lead to recall situations and or loss of customers, again depending on who is auditing and the type of audit being conducted.

Back to top

Tony-C · Answer 6

#7 Tony-C

Grade - FIFSQN

IFSQN Fellow
4,238 posts
1294 thanks

612
Excellent

United Kingdom
Gender:Male
Location:World
Interests:My main interests are sports particularly football, pool, scuba diving, skiing and ten pin bowling.

Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:41 AM

To add to previous posts, some relevant parts from the BRC Food Safety Standard:

The grading of non-conformities is reviewed by the independent certification process of the Certification Body

It is unlikely that these non-conformities can be addressed and fully effective improvements implemented and established within a 28-day period - although there may be some exceptions*.

Where this occurs at a certified site, certification must be withdrawn immediately.

No certificate shall be issued until major and minor non-conformities have been demonstrated as having been corrected.

* I have successfully appealed against a major non-conformity raised during a BRC audit and as indicated above there may be exceptions where you are able to close out a major non-conformity within the prescribed timescale.

Regards,

Tony